Homosexual Rainbow Sash Movement Threatens to Disrupt Pentecost Mass, Confront Cardinal George

[archangel04]

On Pentecost Sunday, May 23, 2010, members of a Homosexual Equivalency Activist Movement which calls itself the “Rainbow Sash” have announced their plans to attempt to disrupt the celebration of the Holy Mass throughout the Nation.They have specifically announced their intention to openly confront one of the great Churchmen of the United States, the Archbishop of Chicago and President of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, Francis Cardinal George, OMI

catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=36573&page=1

How sad

 

[WatchingMedia]

The Cardinal needs to make certain he has Police coverage.
All Church property of any Faith is private property of that Church.

They can also go to jail for civil rights violations, by keeping people from exercising their freedom of religion.

Why can’t these gays do their own thing on their own property?

 

[Dale_M]

They can also go to jail for civil rights violations, by keeping people from exercising their freedom of religion.

Why can’t these gays do their own thing on their own property?

I can’t be certain what they will do this year, but previously, the way they protest is to attend mass while wearing a rainbow sash. They then present themselves for communion. The priest or EMHC is put in the position of denying, or not denying them the Eucharist, knowing that the rainbow sash wearer is advocating homosexual rights.

Six years ago a counter protest group in St. Paul, Minnesota confronted the RSM members outside the cathedral, and sat next to them in the pews. Just before communion, the counter protestors knelt in the main aisle, blocking the RSM members from reaching the communion ministers. So the RSM members climbed over the top of the kneeling men. It wasn’t very seemly, but I don’t think anything similar has happened since.

 

[Seamus_L]

The last couple years, this group has entered Holy Name Cathedral wearing there Rainbow sashes. They went up for communion, but were denied per the Cardinal’s orders, but were given a blessing instead. They then remained standing in the pews. This year though, the word “confront” makes it sound more disruptive.
Simple solution. Deny entry to anyone wearing the Rainbow sash, and notify police that a militant group may attempt to disrupt the 11am mass. Hopefully, that's what is already being planned.

 

[Brendan]

Six years ago a counter protest group in St. Paul, Minnesota confronted the RSM members outside the cathedral, and sat next to them in the pews. Just before communion, the counter protestors knelt in the main aisle, blocking the RSM members from reaching the communion ministers. So the RSM members climbed over the top of the kneeling men. It wasn’t very seemly, but I don’t think anything similar has happened since.

I’ve had this ‘dream’ of setting up a table outside the Cathdral. We’d have a few of us dressed up as Martin Luther, Arius, Nestorius and John Calvin.

We’d have a big sign declaring “Come Dressed as your Favorite Heretic Day - Heretic Costume Contest”

As the Rainbow Sashers arrive, we’d applaud and give them a trophy.

 

[DeaconsSon87]

Excellent thoughts…as a mere layman, how should I go about warning ArchMil churches about this?

 

[Santi2]

I can’t be certain what they will do this year, but previously, the way they protest is to attend mass while wearing a rainbow sash. They then present themselves for communion. The priest or EMHC is put in the position of denying, or not denying them the Eucharist, knowing that the rainbow sash wearer is advocating homosexual rights.
Six years ago a counter protest group in St. Paul, Minnesota confronted the RSM members outside the cathedral, and sat next to them in the pews. Just before communion, the counter protestors knelt in the main aisle, blocking the RSM members from reaching the communion ministers. So the RSM members climbed over the top of the kneeling men. It wasn’t very seemly, but I don’t think anything similar has happened since.

A protest over denying communion to practising homosexuals took place nearly three months ago at a Sunday Mass in the Netherlands. The Bishop advised not to distribute Holy Communion for that Mass. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8542285.stm

 

[GraceSofia]

A protest over denying communion to practising homosexuals took place nearly three months ago at a Sunday Mass in the Netherlands. The Bishop advised not to distribute Holy Communion for that Mass. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8542285.stm

I remember that story. I wonder what is happening now. The latest news I could find was from March 8th.
Dutch Catholics Upset at Diocese for Backing Down on Communion for Open Homosexuals

The diocese originally backed the priest, and then kind of hung him out to dry.

…the diocese announced that Communion is not normally refused, and endorsed a statement from the Cathedral which said that they would leave the decision about receiving Communion to the individual’s conscience.

 

[Timothy17]

I am not a canon lawyer, but if the rainbow sash is worn as a literal “defiance” of the Bishop’s authority, then I think they wave their rights to Communion at once, as to defy the Church’s authority on matters of Faith and Morals is to deny the Church. It is to openly and willfully place yourself outside of communion with your Bishop, and hence expecting to receive communion is a brazen deception: you are either lying about your relationship to the Bishop by pretending to be in communion with him while requesting communion or gravely mistaken about the Church’s long-standing and permanent teaching.

The Church Fathers, as we all know, adamantly declared that the faithful have a positive duty to stand with the Bishop; therefore, the question is whether or not this rainbow sash constitutes open denial of the Church’s authority or merely conveying a private opinion on some issue. If it is unquestionably the former, which I think it is, then the Bishop then could refuse them Communion not because of their private opinion in regards to homosexual behaviour, but for the far graver and dangerous reason of openly defying the Church and denying the Bishop’s lawful and rightful authority therein.

 

[Santi2]

I remember that story. I wonder what is happening now. The latest news I could find was from March 8th.
Dutch Catholics Upset at Diocese for Backing Down on Communion for Open Homosexuals

The diocese originally backed the priest, and then kind of hung him out to dry.

A sad state of affairs really.

Here’s a copy of Fr Luc Buyens’ homily, in case you have not come across it yet.

incaelo.wordpress.com/2010/02/23/i-did-not-want-this-disturbance-fr-luc-buyens-homily/

 

[Dale_M]

A protest over denying communion to practising homosexuals took place nearly three months ago at a Sunday Mass in the Netherlands. The Bishop advised not to distribute Holy Communion for that Mass.

Yes, I remember that came up for discussion here. Apparently, both sides agreed to a kind of truce.

“People should decide for themselves whether or not to attend communion whatever their sexuality and should do so with a clean conscience,” said a spokesperson for the diocese.

Gay organisations COC and the ‘Friends of Gaykrant’ are pleased with the “reconciliatory words” from the church council. Bergkamp said, “The discussion has been initiated. The church council has indicated it wants a long-term contact.”

The church council has called on demonstrators not to protest in church by wearing pink triangles or calling out slogans. The gay organisations have decided not to continue their Sunday mass protests. They hope their supporters will follow suit.

nrc.nl/international/article2496877.ece/Church_bows_to_gays_seeking_communion

Dutch Catholics Upset at Diocese for Backing Down on Communion for Open Homosexuals

I realize that you are just quoting the LIfeSite headline, but I am not sure the diocese backed down. I think it sought peace by avoiding the issue of what to do when a publicly known sinner seeks communion. But, at least in the US, isn’t it common practice to allow the individual to decide whether s/he is worthy of communion? I’m thinking of politicians who vote for abortion legislation yet go to Mass and receive the Eucharist. The Dutch diocese seems to be taking a similar stance.

 

[GraceSofia]

I realize that you are just quoting the LIfeSite headline, but I am not sure the diocese backed down. I think it sought peace by avoiding the issue of what to do when a publicly known sinner seeks communion. But, at least in the US, isn’t it common practice to allow the individual to decide whether s/he is worthy of communion? I’m thinking of politicians who vote for abortion legislation yet go to Mass and receive the Eucharist. The Dutch diocese seems to be taking a similar stance.

I know the topic is the news now and then, but I can’t remember-- in the US have they ever actually refused Communion to someone who has gone up?

Yes, you’re right-- it was the headline for the story-- but I would also interpret it as “backing down” from the position of not giving Communion.

I am not saying I think that it is right or wrong, though.
A very sticky wicket.

 

[GraceSofia]

I can’t be certain what they will do this year, but previously, the way they protest is to attend mass while wearing a rainbow sash. They then present themselves for communion. The priest or EMHC is put in the position of denying, or not denying them the Eucharist, knowing that the rainbow sash wearer is advocating homosexual rights.

And do they sometimes deny them? That could get really ugly if the person insisted.

 

[JimG]

And do they sometimes deny them? That could get really ugly if the person insisted.

Nobody can insist on receiving communion. The priest may simply confer a blessing, or the EMHC may say a greeting. Or the priest may simply decline to distribute communion.

 

[Aquinas62]

It seems to me that to the rainbow sash movement, being gay is more important than being Catholic.

 

[JimG]

What would happen if the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka decided to have a demonstration at the same time as the rainbow sash group? Maybe they could all just stay outside and exchange ideas, leaving the Mass attendees in relative peace.

 

[Dale_M]

And do they sometimes deny them? That could get really ugly if the person insisted.

Oh yes, many bishops have directed, in advance, that anyone wearing a rainbow sash not be given the Eucharist. I think the general response of rainbow sashers, when denied communion, is to return to their pews but remain standing while the rest of the congregation kneels.

However, in 2006, a sacrilege occurred at the St. Paul, Minnesota cathedral.

In an act that some witnesses called a “sacrilege” and others called a sign of “solidarity,” a man who was not wearing a sash received a Communion wafer from a priest, broke it into pieces and handed it to some of the sash wearers, who consumed it on the spot.

Ushers threatened to call the police, and a church employee burst into tears when the unidentified man re-distributed the consecrated wafer, which Catholics consider the body of Christ. But the Mass was not interrupted, and the incident ended peacefully, said Dennis McGrath, a spokesman for the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis.

“It was confrontational, but we decided not to try to arrest the guy,” he said.

washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/04/AR2006060400773.html

I think, and hope, this was one time occurrence which only happened in St. Paul.

 

[Teelynn]

Excellent thoughts…as a mere layman, how should I go about warning ArchMil churches about this?

These are my thoughts…it might be (in the future) necessary to have a quip in the bulletins about this…as ugly as it is, people need to be prepared to defend the Eucharist.

 

[OriginalJS]

I know the topic is the news now and then, but I can’t remember-- in the US have they ever actually refused Communion to someone who has gone up?

Yes, you’re right-- it was the headline for the story-- but I would also interpret it as “backing down” from the position of not giving Communion.

I am not saying I think that it is right or wrong, though.
A very sticky wicket.

There are certainly politicians who have been refused communion.

 

[Raphael777]

I’ve had this ‘dream’ of setting up a table outside the Cathdral. We’d have a few of us dressed up as Martin Luther, Arius, Nestorius and John Calvin.

We’d have a big sign declaring “Come Dressed as your Favorite Heretic Day - Heretic Costume Contest”

As the Rainbow Sashers arrive, we’d applaud and give them a trophy.

LOL. Though totally juvenile, I don’t think I could keep myself from watching that on YouTube 5,000 times.