Homosexual Rainbow Sash Movement Threatens to Disrupt Pentecost Mass, Confront Cardinal George

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BobCatholic said:
Why don’t these anti-Catholic bigots just “live and let live”? Oh wait. They don’t want tolerance, they want to force their beliefs on the Church.
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I think the Rainbow Sash Movement pretty much consists only of Catholics. Most non-Catholic gays (who post comments on the web where I can read them) seem to have opinions of the Catholic Church which ranges from one of indifference to outright hostility.

I don’t approve of the the Rainbow Sash Movement, and I think it won’t succeed (in fact I think its participants have dropped over the years), but I do think they are Catholics who would like the Church to change its teachings/practices regarding homosexuality.
 
Dale_M said:
I think the Rainbow Sash Movement pretty much consists only of Catholics. Most non-Catholic gays (who post comments on the web where I can read them) seem to have opinions of the Catholic Church which ranges from one of indifference to outright hostility.

I don’t approve of the the Rainbow Sash Movement, and I think it won’t succeed (in fact I think its participants have dropped over the years), but I do think they are Catholics who would like the Church to change its teachings/practices regarding homosexuality.
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No attempt to have the Church call an evil good has ever succeded. This is totally PELVIC POLITICS. But where sin abounds grace abounds more.
O Jesus forgive us our sins
Save us from the fires of Hell
Lead all souls to heaven
Especially those most in need of your mercy
 
I am pretty sure there are state laws against disrupting church services, as least in Michigan it is a misdemeanor.

If these protestors get out of hand and disrupt the Mass, all the Cardinal (or any priest) has to do is have an usher call the cops and they’ll arrest the protestors.
 
Aquinas62 said:
Big difference, You don’t see Hetero married couples disrupting mass just so they can have birth control. They are dealing with the issue privately, it is between them , their priest and God. The same way that our Gay brethren should be dealing with their issues. in private. The church is NOT a democracy, some teachings may be hard, but thats life, and life is not fair.
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For the Catholics who use artificial birth control, the Church should deny them the Eucharist. All would then be fair and no one could accuse the Catholic Church of targeting homosexuals for exclusion.
 
m8g8 said:
The priest shouldn’t give the Eucharist to a soul who is in the state of sin. Obviously, they aren’t mind readers, but the protesters blatantly intended to commit a sacrilege.

They must think that protesting will make God change His law! 🤷
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What the Priests should really do, is remind everyone that NO ONE is to partake of the Eucharist if they’re in a state of unconfessed mortal sin.

Then the priest could rhyme off all the common sins that the average heterosexuals sitting in the Church commit regularly and clearly advise that they may not receive the Eucharist, unless they go to confession.

abc, missing mass, sexual thoughts, masturbation, divorced and remarried no annulment, lust, adultery, living in common law, having previously received the Eucharist in a state of mortal sin etc…
 
Zatzat said:
For the Catholics who use artificial birth control, the Church should deny them the Eucharist. All would then be fair and no one could accuse the Catholic Church of targeting homosexuals for exclusion.
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They could wear some kind of outfits proclaiming themselves as proud users of artificial birth control, maybe decorated with multicolored condoms and birth control pills, or tee shirts saying “I heart artificial birth control.”

Then we could possibly also have some outrageous outfits for the cohabiters group, and the adulterers group, all proclaiming their particular sexual preferences and the need for the Church to change its teachings.

Should make for an interesting Mass.
 
Dwyer said:
I am pretty sure there are state laws against disrupting church services, as least in Michigan it is a misdemeanor.

If these protestors get out of hand and disrupt the Mass, all the Cardinal (or any priest) has to do is have an usher call the cops and they’ll arrest the protestors.
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The sashers haven’t tried to be disruptive in the past. And these sort of protests are pretty much an annual event in some cities, such as Chicago and St. Paul, Minnesota.

The most disruptive aspect would be the attention they silently draw to themselves with their sash and by remaining standing after being denied the Eucharist.
 
Dale_M said:
The sashers haven’t tried to be disruptive in the past. And these sort of protests are pretty much an annual event in some cities, such as Chicago and St. Paul, Minnesota.

The most disruptive aspect would be the attention they silently draw to themselves with their sash and by remaining standing after being denied the Eucharist.
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Well, if they really wanted to be non-disruptive, they could dress like everyone else at Mass and just follow the rubrics.
 
I don’t understand it. Not the priest, bishops, the pope or even the all mighty, know it all left winged agenderists. Can change what Jesus said. The only way it can be changed is if Jesus himself, came back and told us to change it. It’s the only way. And if they cared so much about the faith, then they would follow what the laws the church follows which where laid down to it, by God almighty himself. Instead of trying to make us change. Noone is forcing them to come to our church or follow our rules. And there are plenty of “churches” out there that will accommodate their sins. Why not go to them? If we change our dogmas,(set down by Christ) then our faith becomes meaningless. I understand and accept their right to live their life the way they want. I bear them no ill will at all. It doesn’t hurt me. But as much right as they have to live their life the way they see fit. and to be left alone to do so. I also have every-right afforded to them, to live my life in the way i see fit. And if that means living my life as close as possible as to what i believe Jesus wanted me too. Then they too should but out, and let me be. I don’t know, it seems, that it’s ok for them to preach to us, and force us to change our ways. But its not ok for us to live ours, the way we see fit. Even though we (catholics) Do not force our ways on to them. If they are so certain that what they do is right. Then why look for validation off of me? Albeit a forced validation.
 
It is the right of the Catholic Church to deny communion to whom it will.

It is the right of everyone else to not attend or donate to that Church and even protest outside.

It is wrong to disrupt their worship service.
 
cyberwolf001 said:
It is the right of the Catholic Church to deny communion to whom it will.
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The Church should deny communion to all who partake in artificial birth control and who masturbate. A world wide public pronouncement from the Vatican reminding everyone that no person shall ever partake of the Eucharist if they use abc or masturbate.

Then all would be fair.
 
Zatzat said:
The Church should deny communion to all who partake in artificial birth control and who masturbate. A world wide public pronouncement from the Vatican reminding everyone that no person shall ever partake of the Eucharist if they use abc or masturbate.

Then all would be fair.
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Some priests have already done that. I know of one in particular who at times requests from the altar that people not present themselves for communion if in a state of mortal sin. Now, of course, he doesn’t name the sins that are mortal, but refers people to the catechism of the Catholic Church. One priest, however, does name these sins as mortal…Fr. John Corapi, who is a famous public teacher of the faith. He has stated on more than one occasion in his talks and seminars that the sins you have mentioned are indeed mortal sins, that must be confessed before presenting oneself for communion. If they are not, people are adding insult to injury, and only bring condemnation upon themselves.

The Vatican trusts in the Bishops to impart these truths to their flock. There are Bishops that are faithful, and those that are not.
 
Zatzat said:
What the Priests should really do, is remind everyone that NO ONE is to partake of the Eucharist if they’re in a state of unconfessed mortal sin.
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Catholics already know that. Before we can receive our first Holy Communion, we have to go to classes at the parish. If they didn’t know that, they must not have made their first Holy Communion and shouldn’t have received it anyway.

Would a shop assistant allow a thief into their shop? Yes, because at the time they would be unaware of their intentions.

Would a shop assistant stand by the door asking, “Are you planning on stealing anything? If you are, you can’t enter.”

If someone tries to enter a shop, shouting, “I’m about to steal something for gay rights!” The assistant wouldn’t let them in!
 
Zatzat said:
The Church should deny communion to all who partake in artificial birth control and who masturbate. A world wide public pronouncement from the Vatican reminding everyone that no person shall ever partake of the Eucharist if they use abc or masturbate.

Then all would be fair.
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That is what I said. The Church has that right. Just as the rest of us have the right to not support it.
 
I don’t know what statements they made last year, but they are saying that they will directly challenge Cardinal George during the 11am mass this Sunday. I would think think that says enough right there regarding there plans, to deny them entry into the Cathedral.
 
Zatzat said:
The Church should deny communion to all who partake in artificial birth control and who masturbate. A world wide public pronouncement from the Vatican reminding everyone that no person shall ever partake of the Eucharist if they use abc or masturbate.

Then all would be fair.
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Agreed.

Now are you saying that because you believe in the Church’s teachings or because you support the homosexualist agenda?
 
BobCatholic said:
Agreed.

Now are you saying that because you believe in the Church’s teachings or because you support the homosexualist agenda?
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I’ll gladly answer your question, so long as you explain what this homosexual agenda is that you speak of.
 
Zatzat said:
I’ll gladly answer your question, so long as you explain what this homosexual agenda is that you speak of.
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Oh? There’s more than one?

Explain please.

I’m talking about the homosexualist agenda which is to: 1) force everyone to accept the homosexual lifestyle, not just merely tolerate it 2) punish those who disagree with the homosexual lifestyle with the power of law and 3) prohibit freedom of religion and freedom of speech if it disagrees with the homosexual lifestyle.

The rainbow sashers are definitely doing 1) and 3)
 
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