nice try at taking a quote out of context…read the whole of this part of scripture and you will find that Christ was speaking about dishonouring one’s parents…Christ never protested the Jewish religion…how could He protest that which He was sent to fulfill??
This is what Adventists do - not Catholics
nice try again yet you still haven’t adressed anything par usual…now how could He have been talking of the church when He didn’t even establish it yet???
Dear Brother In Christ
Wait on the LORD: be of good courage, and he shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the LORD.
CAF is not your personal evangelization outlet.
** Hi Protestat :tiphat:,
Luckly, as the true church the RCC remains firmly grounded, thanks to the HS, and His guidance.
Remember to get undressed and stand outside. If He isn’t here by 1PM, I probably miscaluated! You could get dressed if the police don’t pick you up first.It is the Holy Spirit only that convicts anyone of truth. No Church does it for Him
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
101, I sincerely thank you as a brother in Christ for your prayer. I gratefully accept each and every prayer. But, and this is very Catholic, my affliction is a penance that is part of the process of perfecting my spirit, and is for your increase in faith through your prayers. That was revealed to me early on.
I can give him a break. We have argued and argued and he knows much more about Catholicism than when he started. And I know more about the SDA. I’ll take any prayer I can get!CAF is not your personal evangelization outlet.
The poster you were replying to was, in a heartfelt way, sharing the truth of the Catholic church with you. Do you see the lack of compassion in your response of directing him AWAY from the fullness of the truth and into YOUR understanding of it?
This is true, but what does that have to do with putting Ellen White on par with the Scriptures?
Oh, I disagree. I think we have had some popes with very strong prophetic gifts.
Just a dig, to keep the focus off the OP, which is about SDA not being in harmony with Apostolic Teaching.
I think it is more accurate to say that there are sinful men who are joined to the Church. The sin, however, cannot be laid at the feet of the Holy and Pure bride of Christ.
I would think it would be a great embarrassment to do so.
Seems to me that it was th Pharisees that were “protesting” God’s law, and Jesus, who is God, rebuked them for it…
Seems to me you would have a heckuvatime figuring out what they were, since you have been separated from the Apostolic Tradition for 1900 years.
You said Jesus founded the Adventist Church.
I’ll ask again:
It is simple. We do not teach that - but the Pope and what he says is considered “on par” with Scripture by Catholics all over the world.
Oh, I disagree. I think we have had some popes with very strong prophetic gifts.
*Hi guanophore:
Actually, I’ve never heard one of our popes referred to as a prophet. I apologize if I misspoke. I would be interested in knowing who they may be.*
I think it is more accurate to say that there are sinful men who are joined to the Church. The sin, however, cannot be laid at the feet of the Holy and Pure bride of Christ.
*Yes, what you say about the Church as an “entity” is true. But I meant it in the sense of a body of Christians.
With warmest respect for what you’re saying, I was catechized to believe that the Church Christ left with Peter is still in tact even though there are “limbs” that have broken away from Christ’s Church, they are nevertheless still a part of it. To say that the Church (body of Christians) is only those confirmed catholic is to separate us from other Christians and leave Christ’s promise to us broken. There are those who left the faith, but that does not negate Christ’s promise that the Church remains. We are not separated from our brethren by faith, only the correct practice of it. I think the scripture you quote can be taken to mean the Church as a body of baptized individuals practicing the catholic faith, not withstanding those who do not. I do not believe you can separate the church from the sinners within it. Since “the Church” is referring to a body of people, not an entity. If you interpret the scripture below the way you have, you are saying that Christ gave himself up for only those confirmed in the catholic faith. I am not on board with that and I know a deacon in my church who made it perfectly clear to me that his Protestant parents were in Heaven. ( I was slightly scorned for thinking otherwise.)
I would be interested in hearing whether you believe our Church teaches that only confirmed catholics receive the benefit of Christ’s sacrafice. Please undestand, I’m not being confrontational. Some of us are not catechized correctly, it’s sad but true.
I would think it would be a great embarrassment to do so.
Well, it would be an imbarassment in the respect that the church was founded on the premise that it is the Remnant Church and is recognized as such through the gift of prophecy. No EGW, no remnant church. They would like to sweep her under the rug, but they cannot completely do so. That is why they keep her radical teachings primarily to themselves. Did you know she had a vision whereby God supposedly told her that the Pharisees wanted Mary to “get control” of Jesus? And that Jesus’ “older brothers” were constanly irretated by Him? She wrote these things in a book titled, “Desire of Ages”. She has written some really blasphemous stuff.
Yes you do. You even do it on your own website. If posting a written work by EGW on “Steps to Christ” is not putting her on par with the Scriptures, what is?
Let no man therefore judge you in meat or in drink, or in respect of a festival day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbaths. Which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ.(Col. 2:16-17)
