How can Catholics vote for Joe Biden

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Yeah nice guy. Anyone who is well off and not giving 10% of income to charity/Church I really have to wonder where their heart lies. Say what you want about Trump, he actually donates his entire presidential salary to veterans.
 
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It only gets better. In 2019, Joe realizes he want to run for President so he has to fix his apparent stinginess … and rachets up that percentage to a whopping 6% on $4.6 millions.

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This is the trend among Dems.They

give so little of their personal wealth to charities.They prefer we all forcibly donate through higher taxes.
 
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Of course, if JB cannot complete his term, we can rely on Kamala to pick up the slack.

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What does a Catholic “single issue” voter say to their Catholic counterparts that vote on the sum of competing issues, when put together, can be easily seen as out weighing any single issue?
How about you stop characterizing those who consider abortion an important issue — among a long list of other issues — as “single issue” voters? That could be because — I submit — that you believe yourself to be holding, perhaps even wrongly, the correct view on all those other issues so that can only leave abortion as the “single issue” that remains to those who don’t vote as you do.

Fortunately, that isn’t the case because those who don’t vote as you do can detail a long list of other issues that provide them with very good reasons for not voting Democrat. They aren’t “single issue” voters despite that you only want to characterize them that way.

They do, in reality, disagree with you on a whole host of other issues that determine their position which is just as reasonable and morally justifiable as the position you hold, so let’s stop this mischaracterization of others, shall we?
 
This is the trend among Dems.They

give so little of their personal wealth to charities.They prefer we all forcibly donate through higher taxes.
…so that the state can control which charities are supported and which are not because every individual ends up with less discretion on where their money goes.
 
What does a Catholic “single issue” voter say to their Catholic counterparts that vote on the sum of competing issues, when put together, can be easily seen as out weighing any single issue?
If the candidate supported slavery would you be a single issue voter?
 
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I suppose they don’t get contraceptive devices that might be abortifacients either …
After investigation following the Hobby Lobby kerfuffle, the answer is yes, they don’t get abortifacient contraceptive devices. All of the contraceptives considered primarily act prior to ovulation, and none act following implantation.
Between one-third and one-half of all fertilized eggs never fully implant.
I’m aware that many pro-life supporters, contrary to medical practice, prefer to think of pregnancy as beginning at the moment of fertilization. But I’m not aware of any who consider the one-third to one-half of all fertilized eggs that naturally fail to implant as abortions, or count those abortions in their statistics, an inconsistency that can similarly be described as bad arithmetic.
That would be because you appear to misunderstand that abortion in the context of the pro-life argument doesn’t mean when the fertilized eggs are not viable or the expulsion is beyond the control of any human being. So the intentional killing of a person is no more or no less wrong or morally significant than the natural death of a person? That is how you think the moral issue of abortion is to be resolved?

The MORAL implications of a human moral agent intentionally aborting a fetus are quite different than the events of nature. Otherwise, we ought to count as a MURDER the death of any human being for any reason whatsoever.

Do you really want to blur the line between a miscarriage or spontaneous expulsion of a fertilized egg and an intentional abortion? Rather than clarify the issue you are content to muddy it in order to not properly resolve it, morally speaking? 🤔
 
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What does a Catholic “single issue” voter say to their Catholic counterparts that vote on the sum of competing issues, when put together, can be easily seen as out weighing any single issue?
If the candidate supported slavery would you be a single issue voter?
Actually the confiscation by overlords of 60+% of the fruits of one’s labour is tantamount to being held in slavery so that “single issue” might be sufficient to vote against the party that promotes slavish tax agendas. 😏
 
“I don’t support genocide, but if it happens oh well 🤷‍♂️” See how ridiculous that sounds?
Very ridiculous to claim that saying no one proactively supports abortion is in any way equivalent to promoting genocide.
Then why is it not outlawed?
There are many other things that are not illegal yet virtually universally disliked (e.g. root canal). There are many reasons to oppose abortion; that is not one of them.
That is not a pro-life position, it is indifference towards the slaughter of children.
That is simply false. If one were indifferent to abortion, why would one support policies that would possibly reduce the number? Making it illegal is not the only way to oppose it or to reduce the number.
 
If the candidate supported slavery would you be a single issue voter?
In 2020? That is an odd issue to bring up. I do not think any Republicans have gone that far. If they did, no one should vote for someone obviously mentally ill.
 
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In 2020? That is an odd issue to bring up. I do not think any Republicans have gone that far. If they did, no one should vote for someone obviously mentally ill.
The point I’m making is that a candidates stance on one issue could be enough to disqualify them.
 
The point I’m making is that a candidates stance on one issue could be enough to disqualify them.
Well, I understand single issue voters. I really do. I regret that mutual respect does not exist for those who do not follow this, and opt instead to vote as the Church teaches. Surely following the Church on this should be an option for Catholics.

…and the questions get weirder.
 
LOL. Being mentally ill is not an issue. It is a condition. I also would not vote for someone deceased. So that is two issues. I would not vote for someone under 10. Three issues.

You cannot make coherent logical conclusions from strange hypotheticals. I will leave this derailed train for someone without a headache.
 
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You should probably try to be a bit more subtle when building the straw man to attack.
 
No, it isn’t a “simple question” and you very well know it; it is a poor attempt at a straw man
attack. . . .
 
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Mr. RIchards undermined his entire argument by stating:
Speaking for those “who have questioned [the] continued, uncritical support of President Trump over the past four years.”
So, Trump supporters are a monolith of “uncritical” and “continued” support, but he decries portraying “Black People” as a “Monolith?” Transference, perhaps?

It’s okay for him to uncritically portray Trump supporters as a monolith of “uncritical support” but not okay for others to portray Black people as such, despite he is completely uncritical of Joe Biden’s repeated monolithic depictions of blacks:
  • “If you don’t vote for me, you ain’t black.”
  • Or "… what you all know but most people don’t know, unlike the African-American community with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things,…”
    *Or Biden referring to Obama as “… the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a story-book, man,”
And Trump supporters are “uncritical?” Transference, perhaps?

I could spend a day taking that article apart piece by piece but I gotta get back to my uncritical support for Trump which preoccupies every contiguous moment of my time. 🥴
 
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It’s okay for him to uncritically portray Trump supporters as a monolith of “uncritical support” but not okay for others to portray Black people as such, despite he is completely uncritical of Joe Biden’s repeated monolithic depictions of blacks:
I read this. He did not say that Trump supporters were a monolith. What he said was," However, I can speak for a wide swath of men and women who have questioned continued, uncritical support of President Trump over the past four years." I find it hard to deny that there are a lot of Trump supporters that are this way. The man himself said he had supporters that would back him shot someone in the street.

The point is, the grammar does allow for him to refer only to those Trump supporters who are like this, which I am sure we agree do exist, just like there are detractors that think he never does anything right. I would not take it personal. I do not think there is any inference that all Trump supporters are uncritical.

I hope whoever is president come January can have our support in all the good that is done, while we stand firm on the moral issues that we need stand firm on. I have been toying with predictions, but I want to hold off until after the election.
 
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