How can you be Democratic and also be Catholic?

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ForeverLearn said:
Pro birth. Stop caring after the person is born.
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Pro life does not stop caring for the person after they are born. The Catholic church has always cared for people before they are born and after they are born. They created the hospital system we have now to care for the sick. They have charities and missionaries all over the world caring for the sick and the poor.

The democratic party is certainly not a party that could be held up as a party that cares for people after they are born. As a matter of fact, quite the opposite.
 
If there were deaths that could be attributed to him ineptly doing his job, then I would blame him.
 
Dovekin said:
Which is why I am inviting you, in response to the question asked by the OP, to discuss something other than this question. But again your response is to offer this question, as if it were something sane rational people should discuss.
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Once abortion is admitted as a premise, any further discussion is absurd. Sanity and humanity have been abandoned. Not to mention the Catechism, the Catholic Faith, and the objective value of any human being.
 
MagdalenaRita said:
Pro life does not stop caring for the person after they are born. The Catholic church has always cared for people before they are born and after they are born. They created the hospital system we have now to care for the sick. They have charities and missionaries all over the world caring for the sick and the poor.
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So, the Catholic church is the Republican Party now? I was discussing DJT.
MagdalenaRita said:
The democratic party is certainly not a party that could be held up as a party that cares for people after they are born. As a matter of fact, quite the opposite.
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It is a general understand, among intellectuals, that the Democratic Party has more policies aiding the disadvantaged in society. But it appears that you direct it towards me as if I am on a side. I am only on the side of my own. I make my decisions based on the facts that are available to me.

The facts tell me that DJT is only concerned for himself and has and will continue to run this country into the ground. Those of you with children will live to regret your vote, if you live long enough to see the long term effects this administration has had globally for the US.
 
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So you are taking a few quotes, where democrats were actually graciously honest and admitted the few things that the Trump admin did right (something the other side will never do in the reverse) and are concluding that “Funny, all the Democrats were saying he handled it greatly.”

That takes a special kind of dishonestly there. One that could only be upstaged by Trump himself.
 
They did that under duress. Remember Trump told them he would cut off all aid unless they bowed down and worshipped him.
 
fide said:
Doesn’t the human heart wrench in compassion, in the chest of a fellow human being, to even think of or imagine the horror of deliberate, intentional, methodical murder of innocent little babies?
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Only if you believe they are “innocent little babies” instead of a collection of cells. Once again you are assuming away the point of the issue!
 
What am I to address? He took NYC from one of the worst states for the virus to one of the best. I think he made some mistakes early on. But were they purposeful? I think he learned a lot after the initial surge and improved.

Not sure what this has to do with Trump. Trump’s issue is that he doesn’t learn from his mistakes, because he thinks he never makes any…or at least can’t admit them. And you don’t make a global crisis political. That is just un-American. All “war-time” Presidents have rallied the US together is times of crisis, not trying to divide. These are the Cardinal errors he has made and continues to make.
 
Well, when two people died from Ebola, Trump said Obama should resign.
 
Suit yourself. But you know whether you have researched the topic or not. I am willing to bet a large sum of money that you haven’t read one non-right-wing source on the subject of Cuomo’s handling. So don’t talk to me about being serious. I’m willing to trust my research skills up against almost anyone. If someone can do it better, I will concede and admit that. However, you have provided NOTHING that shows you are anywhere near the level to throw out childish statements towards me.

May I suggest you consider reading views that are contrary to yours. That is the heart of an intellectual mind.
 
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https://scholarship.law.nd.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1125&context=nd_naturallaw_forum

Try that for enlightenment: Noonan was a prominent Catholic conservative lawyer. He wrote several books on legal issues in the Church and taught law at Notre Dame. Reagan appointed him a federal judge. Look him up on Wikipedia if you like.

I’m saying all that because I think most pro-life people today would see his views as radical leftist instead of what they were–conservative concerned with facts, not opinions.
 
Erikaspirit16 said:
Meanwhile, as another poster pointed out, the best course of action is not to make abortion illegal, but to find the causes of abortion (usually economic) and try to eliminate the causes.
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Also, choice means a women is not forced one way or the other. She simply has a legal choice. And that choice is a personal decision between her and her physician, not the government.

Better to eliminate the causes of abortion.
 
I’m sure I could respond with long citations to economic, political, sociological and religious writings that disprove your centralist point of view. But to be honest, I don’t feel like it. I’m tired. So here’s this:

It’s Catholic doctrine. End of discussion.

P. S.: You’re arguing with the writings of a saint.
 
Shakuhachi said:
And that choice is a personal decision between her and her physician, not the government.
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This is something I find strange. The people who say “Keep government out of my private life” are the same ones who want the government to INTERFERE in other people’s lives. Contradictory.
 
Well that’s all nonsense of course. But wait! This just in! The Trump administration has just guaranteed this pandemic will go on and on!!! They pressured the CDC to issue new testing guidelines: no longer should they test asymptomatic people who have come into contact with infected people!!! That’ll do it. It will ensure that more and more people get infected!! Brilliant stroke of stable genius. And of course unique…no one else is that…[insert your own adjective].
 
Erikaspirit16 said:
But in practice, where are almost all cases of embezzlement and corruption? At the local level.
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I also just have to say this is one of the weakest arguments I’ve ever seen against decentralization, not to mention subsidiarity which is Catholic doctrine.

There’s no substance to it. Just “this is what I see therefore more centralization.”

Read the book Grand Theft Pentagon and then we can talk about corruption.
 
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