How do Catholics explain 1 Timothy 2:5 and Hebrews 7:26?

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Peter_J said:
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I thought we all play a role in each other’s salvation.
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That’s our Assignment: help Others to Salvation also. And salvation is not a spectator sport, as Cardinal Arinze said memorably at the Basillica in DC a few years ago. We Are The Team. :yyeess:
 
Peter_J said:
A little bit tangental, but it might not be a bad thing that you have low expectations. In my experience, most people on the internet are more interested in talking than listening.
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Peter_J said:
Alright.

Are the Marian dogmas all true? I think we could debate that question for a long time.

Is it true to say (as you have) that the Marian dogmas “elevate Mary to the level of Christ”? No, that’s obviously false (and a bit silly, in my opinion).
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You just refuse to admit that all of the Marian dogmas mirror the divnity of Christ.

The Immaculate Conception mirrors Christ being born without sin.

The Assumption mirrors Christ’s Ressurection.

Mary being kept from sin mirrors Christ’s sinlessness

Mary being called queen of Heaven mirrors Christ being King of King and Lord of Lords

it all fits, face it.
 
SIA said:
You just refuse to admit that all of the Marian dogmas mirror the divnity of Christ.

The Immaculate Conception mirrors Christ being born without sin.

The Assumption mirrors Christ’s Ressurection.

Mary being kept from sin mirrors Christ’s sinlessness

Mary being called queen of Heaven mirrors Christ being King of King and Lord of Lords

it all fits, face it.
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You misunderstand the teachings of the Church concerning Mary. Furthermore, I fand your absolute hubris offensive. How can you presume to know what we believe. If you would approach the teachings with an open mind, instead of unwavering presuppositions, you would see that what you are suggesting is in error.
 
CWBetts said:
You misunderstand the teachings of the Church concerning Mary. Furthermore, I fand your absolute hubris offensive. How can you presume to know what we believe. If you would approach the teachings with an open mind, instead of unwavering presuppositions, you would see that what you are suggesting is in error.
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Look, I’m an ex Cradle Catholic of over three decades. I was a devoutly practicing Catholic for most of my adult life until I left the church a few years ago. I know what the teachings of Mary are in the Catholic church. You can say that my perspective is wrong or that my viewpoints are wrong on them, but I do know them and I know them well. You can’t accuse everyone that disagrees with you of ignorance as a defense forever. Sooner or later you are going to have to explain what it is you believe and why.
 
SIA said:
Look, I’m an ex Cradle Catholic of over three decades. I was a devoutly practicing Catholic for most of my adult life until I left the church a few years ago. I know what the teachings of Mary are in the Catholic church. You can say that my perspective is wrong or that my viewpoints are wrong on them, but I do know them and I know them well. You can’t accuse everyone that disagrees with you of ignorance as a defense forever. Sooner or later you are going to have to explain what it is you believe and why.
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Just FYI, Is a Convert to Catholic Church a few months ago, Easter 2008. She was unmarian probably too. what you Say about Marian doctrines being unreasonable and not biblical that shows you have Very False ideas About the doctrines. Have the Anglican churches dropped full appreciation of Mary for new ideas also?
 
Sailka said:
Just FYI, Is a Convert to Catholic Church a few months ago, Easter 2008. She was unmarian probably too. what you Say about Marian doctrines being unreasonable and not biblical that shows you have Very False ideas About the doctrines. Have the Anglican churches dropped full appreciation of Mary for new ideas also?
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What? We recognize Mary as Scripture depicts her and always have. Can you show me where the Immaculate Conception could be found before the 5th century? Talk about new ideas.
 
“An ex-Cradle Catholic” is nothing more than a poorly cathechized Catholic
 
CWBetts said:
A properly catechized Catholic would plainly see that the Churc’s teachings are grounded in the Scriptures
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Wrong. Even you can’t prove that they are. Not because you are a failure, but because they simply are not.
 
SIA said:
What? We recognize Mary as Scripture depicts her and always have. Can you show me where the Immaculate Conception could be found before the 5th century? Talk about new ideas.
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Haven’t heard that the Bible does Not have all details in it? And since when is Your Anglican parish Sola Scriptura? Rome was sacked sacked a couple of times, Burned included. And the Church was always a Living Church, not writing everything down.
God Bless you, brother in Christ. If I may ask a question about Anglican: don’t you believe in Real Presence communion? Or is it just a remembrance. And what is the Justification Biblically Or Traditionally for Women Priests and Bishops? We Catholics are told that Our Lord selected only Men for ordained clergy, Women being too ‘High Order’, as Fr Corapi suggests so well.
 
Sailka said:
Haven’t heard that the Bible does Not have all details in it? And since when is Your Anglican parish Sola Scriptura? Rome was sacked sacked a couple of times, Burned included. And the Church was always a Living Church, not writing everything down.
God Bless you, brother in Christ. If I may ask a question about Anglican: don’t you believe in Real Presence communion? Or is it just a remembrance. And what is the Justification Biblically Or Traditionally for Women Priests and Bishops? We Catholics are told that Our Lord selected only Men for ordained clergy, Women being too “High Order”, as Fr Corapi says so well.
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You’re just looking for a fight and it’s simple to see. I asked you to show me where in Scripture the Marian dogmas are and now you are telling me that not all truth is included in the Scriptures. Now you are throwing the Sola Scriptura thing around again which is really getting old. Truth is, you are trying to use offense as a defense becuse you don’t have any other defense. Nobody ever said anything about the Bible being the only authority in the Christian religion. I simply asked you to show me how the Marian dogmas are Biblical. Just be honest with yourself and with me and admit that they are not Biblical.
 
SIA said:
Wrong. Even you can’t prove that they are. Not because you are a failure, but because they simply are not.
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The basis of the Church is found in the Word of God, and only realy come to light when viewed through the lens of Holy Tradition
 
SIA said:
Wrong. Even you can’t prove that they are. Not because you are a failure, but because they simply are not.
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Is it You or your branch of Anglican Chutrch that has gone Sola Sciptura, SIA? And where is Sola in "Scripture’? :bible1: No one has found any solid verse.
And a few million searches have been made. :pshaw: :yyeess:
 
Sailka said:
Is it You or your branch of Anglican Chutrch that has gone Sola Sciptura, SIA? And where is Sola in "Scripture’? :bible1: No one has found any solid verse.
And a few million searches have been made. :pshaw: :yyeess:
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What is your point?
 
SIA said:
What is your definition of Holy Tradition?
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The teachings of the early church fathers, as well as the infallible pronouncements of the Popes, the megesterium and ecumenical councils. You truly were poorly catechized if you were Catholic for 30 years and a neophyte of 8 months had to explain it to you
 
SIA said:
What? We recognize Mary as Scripture depicts her and always have. Can you show me where the Immaculate Conception could be found before the 5th century? Talk about new ideas.
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Indeed, are at least 2 pre-5th Century Saints who wrote of the Sinless Blessed Virgin, and are Bible verses clearly indicating same. I’ve spent couple hours off and on, got heavily documented Biblical and pre-400, post 600 Writings by Saints. Pre year 400 ok?

Link to the Immaculate Conception Major Documentation: URL: index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=924&Itemid=83
[SIGN]Mother of all Peoples Magazine: Friday, 08 December 2006 The Immaculate Conception: Basic Foundations of the Dogma Mark Miravalle [/SIGN]
 
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