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ALLFORHIM
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I BELIEVE YOU!!!
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estesbob
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I you missed the part where he mentions the sin of presuming to know his spouses Spiritual state.I pray that my husband says “Im going to church with you today”I have been praying for him for a very long time. Patience is a virtue right
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Church_Militant
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Perhaps your prayer for his conversion to your personal interpretation of what salvation is should be more like Our Lord’s own.I pray that my husband says “Im going to church with you today”
“Saying: Father, … but yet not my will, but thine be done.”
If you believe that Catholicism is not Christian, then you have a mistaken belief. Try encouraging your husband in his Catholic faith and see what happens. Aren’t you supposed to be in submission to him as spiritual head of your household?
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TOP
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Thats true. It would have been one think to say “let’s go to Church” as an invitation, but I said “WE NEED to go to church”. As soon as I said it, I felt it. My experience included a lesson in that my family is not mine, but the Lord’s. That, I’m just a caretaker. Probably why it stung so much. Tim
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Linnyo
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No this isn’t always the case at all. I became born again through prayer and through Gog forgiving me at 14 years old. I did not have any great flashes or any great out of the ordinary things happen to me. I said ‘the sinners prayer’ and I meant every word. The Holy Spirit was there and I was very aware of His presence. However, it was not a road to Damascus type thing. Most born again Christians I know, have had similar experiences to mine. A few have had road to Damascus type experiences but more haven’t.
BTW, I found my way home to the Catholic church many years later and now I know what is means to be in God’s real presence. It is awesome - even more so than the road to Damascus.
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Mannyfit75
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Is ALLFORHIM’s husband a Catholic?
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TOP
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I think St. Paul’s experience is being grossly underestimated by some. It’s nice to think that our experience’s where like his and some are to a degree, but he was chosen for a great mission and taught by the Lord Himself. But even he had thorns to contend with after such a conversion. Tim
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ALLFORHIM
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Im sorry Im not understanding you
Who says that?
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Orionthehunter
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And some of us have no recollection of not having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I am grateful that I was born into a good faithful Catholic home which always reflected the light of Christ and took me to Mass so I knew Him always near. Even during my wandering years of college, I knew He was close even though I didn’t always live like it.
For you to hear my testimony, you’d have to hear my entire life story. Its ups and downs. And upon reflection, I realize how true the “footprints in the sand” are. It is a little more like Peter and Andrew: Christ called me at my baptism and I’ve been imperfectly following Him ever since.
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juliamajor
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We call it a “conversion experience” or illumination of conscience-it’s a question of semantics- born again is only a term:blush:
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lak611
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I have no doubt either.
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ALLFORHIM
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Hi,
I know you mean well, but I could not, in good conscious encourage him in catholocism because I would be lying, as you know I do not agree with it.
Yes I should be in submission to him.
However, God has put him in my spiritual care right now and I do believe God is working on him through my actions.(I do see signs of hope
)Since I am submitting to God’s will, I have to believe that I am doing exactly what God wants me to be doing and that is leading my husband to the truth of salvation through my NONSPEAKING actions:thumbsup:
OH btw–the salvation message I believe is not a belief I take lightly but very seriously. I do happen to believe the bible is very clear on the salvation message and honestly when I read it through the eyes of the Holy Spirit–it was crystal clear. I didnt need any intrepretation.
Whereas I do believe there are areas of the bible that are difficult to understand–this is not one of them.
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ALLFORHIM
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Well— it depends what you mean by catholic
I would say NO because he has no interest in going back to church. He hated church growing up and still does.
If I were you guys I wouldnt want to call my hubby a catholic because he would give them a bad name
You could say he is catholic by name only:shrug:
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lak611
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I had mine as an adult who had been away from the Church for 5 years and not practicing any religion. After reading the Bible, I repented of my sin first to God directly and then to my priest in confession. Since then, I have been active in my church (Bible study, meals for the poor, and I even joined the evangelization committee).
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Linnyo
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I used to think a bit like you but By being submissive (well a little submissive?) and by letting my husband fulfill his role as head of the house, our marraige grew stronger. I have also realised that I was fighting with him out of pride. I really did know that the Catholic church was ‘as right as any other’ but it was pride and an insistence that my salvation was true (it was true but just not full) that caused me to stand against my husband. The pastor of my ‘protestant’ church was the one who suggested that my marraige would be stronger if I went to my husbands church. He was soo right and the added bonus is that my faith is fuller now. I am getting more of God! I hope that made some sense.
I hope that made some sense.Hi,
I know you mean well, but I could not, in good conscious encourage him in catholocism because I would be lying, as you know I do not agree with it.
Yes I should be in submission to him.
Since I am submitting to God’s will, I have to believe that I am doing exactly what God wants me to be doing and that is leading my husband to the truth of salvation through my NONSPEAKING actions:thumbsup:
OH btw–the salvation message I believe is not a belief I take lightly but very seriously. I do happen to believe the bible is very clear on the salvation message and honestly when I read it through the eyes of the Holy Spirit–it was crystal clear. I didnt need any intrepretation.
Whereas I do believe there are areas of the bible that are difficult to understand–this is not one of them.
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estesbob
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TOP did. He said he commited the sin of presuming to know his spouses spirtiual state. You have claimed in no uncertain terms that your husband is not saved. Do you see the link now?Im sorry Im not understanding you
You are praying that your Husband come to your Church. You say he was raised Catholic. Why not encourage him to go to the Catholic Church?
The reality is that both of you have rejected the Church Christ founded. -we are just talking about matter of to which degree.
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Teflon93
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Nope. Born again and in full communion with Christ’s Church, with the full complement of sacraments to boot!
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estesbob
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Which pretty much sums up the fatal flaw of Protestanism.OH btw–the salvation message I believe is not a belief I take lightly but very seriously. I do happen to believe the bible is very clear on the salvation message and honestly when I read it through the eyes of the Holy Spirit–it was crystal clear.** I didnt need any intrepretation**.
Whereas I do believe there are areas of the bible that are difficult to understand–this is not one o:shrug:f them.
It is interesting that although you claim to want your husband “saved” you want him “saved” on your terms. It appears you would rather he go to hell than return to his Church.
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