How to welcome people in irregular unions to the Church

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God wants us in a relationship with Him. Sin affects that relationship negatively so. Christ took the punishment for our sins. He met people where they were. He met The lepers where they were. He met the tax collector where he was. He met the woman caught in adultery where she was. Before a major change took place, He Met Them.
 
A post about the alphabet? I’m new to Catholic Answers so I’m not sure what the alphabet reference is. How to welcome people in irregular unions was my topic… I don’t think it has strayed. People are giving ideas on what we should do. Others are saying what we cant do. What is this alphabet thing you speak of lol
 
I didn’t say they were. I just said he met people where they were. The story of the lepers showed that all of them, but 1, showed a lack of gratitude. Jesus asked, "Were not all ten cleansed? Where are the other nine?
 
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Right here…nothing better than sitting in church with your family and the lesson for the day is about keeping your daughters away from boys who aren’t Catholic…
 
Not that there is anything against boys who aren’t Catholic, but having the same beliefs, especially regarding chastity, is going to make dating much more God oriented!
 
The people aren’t condemned. It only seems that way, when people disagree with the Church, and the Church with them. And usually for the same reason-sinful behavior.
 
Sorry your anecdote does not make sense. If they were so scared about acceptance, why would they be acting like a stereotype? How did you know it was their first time at church? Why were people at your “church” looking for gay people instead of getting ready for mass? Why were people talking and pointing instead of participating in the mass?

What exactly is an “orthodox” catholic church?

Accusing the Catholic Church of bigotry is a serious accusation. As I said, I travel with a friend to other churches roughly 36 times a year and I have never had anyone point or say “SHAME” you gay man. Accusing a parish of scandal is against the forum rules.
 
Ya…you’re right. While we’re sitting in church (I the non-Catholic husband, Catholic wife and 3 boys) and the priest says “make sure your daughter finds a good Catholic boy, he will treat her right and respect her…don’t let her date the “others”, they will only see her as a pawn to serve his needs and wants.” Ya, you’re right. I have no idea why I don’t feel welcome at the parish my wife and kids are members at.
 
I agree that people self condemn for sinful behaviour, but its also obvious others condemn people for sinful behaviour. Jesus was perfect and could perfectly separate the sin from the sinner but we are far from perfect. If a person cant swim, I would advise them that they shouldn’t jump in the deep end. If a person cant distinguish or separate the sinner from the sin, i would offer similar advice.
 
I never said the congregation yelled shame at these men. I also never said they were not scared of acceptance. I never said it was their first time at a church. You keep adding your own information to a story that isn’t yours. You are making this topic about you for some reason. About your experience. You are 1 person among 7 billion? Just because you have never experienced something, how does that change anything about it? Just because you have never broken your back, do you not believe anyone is capable of breaking theirs? Are you a SSA man? If you have never been asked if you were gay, do you think you are the only person in the world who hasn’t been asked. Your post is so angry and almost incoherent. You are making accusations based on how your life has been. Do you just doubt when anybody ever tells you something bad happened to them just because it never happened to you? Confusing.
 
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You actually believe that…just stay with me here…that only Catholic men respect women and non-Catholics see women as being there purely for our enjoyment? That’s what the priest said.

I should probably let my wife of 15 years know that’s my intentions, she really deserves that much.
 
Ok well, you did not give more information regarding what was said or i would have said Its ridiculous to say all non catholic men will treat women as pawns. That’s a pretty terribly judgmental thing for the priest to assume that he knows the heart and mind of every non catholic man. All that I was implying was that being chaste as a young couple is easier if both are on the same page about it. I am sorry that your experience at church was like that.
 
I think the very basic difference in approach from people here is this:

Some are saying “you’re a sinner. Fix that and then you’ll be welcome in church.”

Others are saying, “you’re a sinner. Welcome to the one place that can save you from that.”
 
I didn’t join KoC because all of them are over 50 years old & planning their funerals.
 
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I predicted this was the real intention from the first post…a slow slide to discuss “alternative” couplings. Boy, were my instincts correct.

Why the slyness, the deception?
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“my topic was specific about welcoming people in irregular unions”
Not deceptive at all.
 
No. I am offended that you are accusing the church of scandal, when the story is untrue.

It is straight from the protestant playbook of Catholic stereotypes that are nonsensical and patently false. It is illogical.

The Catholic Church has faults, but your story is not one of them. It is offensive.
 
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