How to welcome people in irregular unions to the Church

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Don’t worry all of my family members are Southern Baptists or non-religious & they are fine with it.
 
I was very specific

My subject - “More of a brainstorming thing here. Amoris Laetitia opened up a sore spot with some people, but the truth of the matter is there a lot of people living in irregular situations who do not feel welcome at Church.” I asked how do we respond as the hands and feet of Jesus to people who are in irregular unions. No deception. Pretty clear I thought.
 
ChunkMonk said:
Indeed. And what did the Holy Spirit tell the Church to do with unrepentant sinners who refused correction?
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We’re not talking about refusing correction, we’re talking about getting them back home.

When Jesus first met the Samaritan woman at the well, were her multiple husbands and current man the first things He talked to her about?
No, they were not.

When the woman caught in adultery was brought to Jesus, did He rail at her for committing adultery?
No, He did not. Before even mentioning sin, He said “Then neither do I condemn you.”

When a tax collector climbed a tree to see Him, did Jesus tell him how sinful he was for being a tax collector?
No, He did not. He invited Zaccheus to come to Him. And then Zaccheus’ heart told him what he needed to do in response.

He met them where they were.
 
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Mtdobbs said:
I don’t need you to believe my story for it to have happened lol. Sometimes, SSA men dress look and act a certain way. Sometimes prostitutes dress and look a certain way. Sometimes, we can tell that a person has SSA. Sometimes we can tell a person is a prostitute. Depending on the area of town we are in. Depending on if we know the people. Depending on if its our best friends cousin.
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Well if they were sashaying down the aisle holding hands and I happened to see it I’d probably stare. Id probably also not have a very welcoming look on my face since the Church, especially at Mass, is a sacred place. I’d be worried they are about to commit a sacrilege as homosexual activists have done that in the past. That isn’t my problem but the people acting like that.
 
I am sorry you are so angry about something. I’ve never been protestant or read their “handbook”. I did just read some teachings on Aquinas and some encyclicals from Saint John Paul 2 though. I broke my back when i was 14 but i don’t need to prove it to you to say that it happened. I ruptured a disc in my back and broke my sternum a year later… again I do not need to prove it to you to say that it happened. I guess I could go back 5 years to the church I was at and try to interview the people who there and try to see if they remember it, perhaps if i had hard evidence, you would believe me? I applaud you for coming to the defence of the Church so vigorously but by denying everyone elses experience that has been different than your own is incredibly naïve and narrow-minded. I love the Catholic Church or i would not write a topic about “How do we be the hands and feet of Christ to people who feel abandoned or betrayed”. Again, I’m sorry you are so angry.
 
Then I’ll only marry deaf woman… too bad for hearing Catholic women.
 
They were not holding hands but they were clearly were not dressed like anybody else there.
 
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what i’m probably saying is that joining the church requires a transformation of how you are living, if in sin, to an acceptance of all that Jesus taught. If sin is committed as a participating Catholic, confession is the sacrament that will forgive you, so that other sacraments can be received, and you’ll be able to live for Christ with a “clean slate”.
 
You’re not in my club that’s why it’s nice to let you know 😘
 
I agree that a transformation is required, but a transformation for some who are far away is impossible if they aren’t there to experience the Love of God. If Jesus had not intervened and shown an act of love to the woman in adultery, would she have been able to sin no more?
 
Mtdobbs said:
Or is this really what you believe?
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What did the Holy Spirit tell us to do with unrepentant sinners in the Church?
Mtdobbs said:
Just because a person cannot or hasn’t changed their state in life, does not give us the right to judge their heart.
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Repentance requires a firm intention to no longer sin. If they struggle and fail, that is one thing. If they have no intention of ever ending their adulterous relationship then they are unrepentant.
Crusader30 said:
It is only prudent to avoid dating non Catholics since they are modernist and have given in to worldiness.
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We should not mix the sacred and the profane. I think more priests should refuse to marry those types of couples.
angel12 said:
He met them where they were.
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How did he treat the Pharisees?
 
Mtdobbs said:
If Jesus had not intervened and shown an act of love to the woman in adultery, would she have been able to sin no more?
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Would Jesus have forgiven her if she had no intention of repenting?

What did Jesus do with the people of Garasenes? Didn’t he leave them?
 
And the Lord saith: “Judge these, lest they actually have free will, and force them to think like you. Taketh upon yourself God’s job of judging the lives of men, because obviously thou art perfect yourself.”

Oh wait. The Lord never said that.
 
Well first of all it needs to be determined if they are looking to be welcomed on their terms or Jesus’ terms. Jesus said if you love me you will obey my commandments. If they are equating welcoming with the Church conforming to their whims then that has to be addressed immediately. As we see in this past Sunday’s Gospel it is through obedience of Jesus’ commandments that we find peace and joy. That’s why Jesus did not accompany sinners very long before He warned against sin.
 
So are you saying He only saved from death because He knew she would repent? Or did Jesus, who was Love incarnate, rescue her from death and it caused her to believe completely that she was loved. And a person who truly believes they are loved, especially by God, would then easily be able to “go and sin no more”
 
ChunkMonk said:
We should not mix the sacred and the profane. I think more priests should refuse to marry those types of couples.
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A Catholic and a non-Catholic…

I can’t believe comments like this. I don’t know how to respond to this negative, and uncharitable comment.
I continue to be stunned by the attitudes of some in this thread.

My cousin married a non-Catholic who then converted to Catholicism three years later. So, you would have denied them the chance to be married and the chance for the non-Catholic spouse to learn about the Church with her Catholic husband.
People do convert. But, you’d just shut that down.
Unbelievable.
 
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So are you saying He only saved from death because He knew she would repent?
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I said “would he have forgiven her” not “would he have stopped the unlawful slaying by a bunch of hypocrites.”

Would Jesus have forgiven her if she was unrepentant?
 
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