Husband's addiction to pornography is devastating

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How very sad for all involved.

I have to ask this. Is it worth breaking up your marriage over this? Is this man a worthy husband and father except for this problem? While he is working on this issue, can the family stay intact? Is this really worth a lifetime as a single parent?
You don’t know how devastating this is to a marriage and there is usually more to it.
It’s easy for someone that doesn’t have to live though this to judge the wife. I have lived though this for 28 years at a great cost to myself and have kept my marriage intact. I’m not sure it’s always worth the great personal cost. Once again maybe you should not be judging us who deal with this everyday.
 
You don’t know how devastating this is to a marriage and there is usually more to it.
It’s easy for someone that doesn’t have to live though this to judge the wife. I have lived though this for 28 years at a great cost to myself and have kept my marriage intact. I’m not sure it’s always worth the great personal cost. Once again maybe you should not be judging us who deal with this everyday.
I am not judging. I knew that this was a post that some/most would not agree with.

However, single mothers have a 42.2% poverty rate (in 2010). Taking that burden on should not be done lightly.
 
You don’t know how devastating this is to a marriage and there is usually more to it.
It’s easy for someone that doesn’t have to live though this to judge the wife. I have lived though this for 28 years at a great cost to myself and have kept my marriage intact. I’m not sure it’s always worth the great personal cost. Once again maybe you should not be judging us who deal with this everyday.
PaulinVA, I could tell you weren’t judging. I took it as simply posing good, fair questions that need to be thought through before making any decisions. That’s not judgement, that’s just helping someone in turmoil see another perspective before making any important decisions.
 
Does your husband want to try to overcome this addiction? Does he realize that pornography usage is not OK? If yes to both questions, then I think you should take him back into the house and work on your marriage.

I understand that you are very hurt, and of course I wouldn’t expect you to feel any other way given the situation. However, as you indicated yourself, this is an addiction. It doesn’t mean that he is consciously choosing to do this with full freedom of the will, because it has become such an ingrained habit (even since long before you were married, as you indicated it started when he was 13).

I would recommend that your husband avail himself of good Catholic resources to combat this problem. Find some materials by Matt Fradd as a good place to start. There also may be some kind of support group or counseling that can help him beat this addiction – assuming that he wants to try.

I would also recommend that the two of you either go to a good Catholic marriage counselor (try www.exceptionalmarriages.com if you can’t find one locally), and/or go to a Retrouvaille weekend together. (However, I’m not sure how much any of this will help, unless he is committed to at least trying to overcome his addiction.)
 
There is also a support group here at CAF called “Impurity Addiction Support Group” for those who are attempting to overcome the addiction to pornography. Your husband might find it beneficial if he is willing to try to change. I’ve heard excellent recommendations about the group, and it would be viewing the habit from the Catholic vantage point.
God bless you always.
 
I understand that the matter is grave from a moral perspective but I cannot for the life of me understand why a man viewing pornography is sometimes put on the same level of adultery. Especially given that most of these situations (including the OPs) predate the marriage and have nothing to do with the spouse. In many cases it’s an anxiety issue that manifests itself in a terribly destructive way during adolescence and it’s very tough to quell no matter how happily married he may be.

I’m not making a judgment on the OP or other wives dealing with the same issue. I understand that it’s hurtful on a personal level and that you fear for your husbands’ souls, but please do know that in most situations it’s a habit that is totally divorced from the idea of actually being physically unfaithful with other women.
 
I understand that the matter is grave from a moral perspective but I cannot for the life of me understand why a man viewing pornography is sometimes put on the same level of adultery. Especially given that most of these situations (including the OPs) predate the marriage and have nothing to do with the spouse. In many cases it’s an anxiety issue that manifests itself in a terribly destructive way during adolescence and it’s very tough to quell no matter how happily married he may be.

I’m not making a judgment on the OP or other wives dealing with the same issue. I understand that it’s hurtful on a personal level and that you fear for your husbands’ souls, but please do know that in most situations it’s a habit that is totally divorced from the idea of actually being physically unfaithful with other women.
In my mind, and I venture to say in the minds of most wives, having sex with yourself is the same as having sex with someone else other than your wife. The husband usually needs some sort of visual stimulation and so looks at some form of images of other women for gratification. It is an assault on the unity of the sacrament of marriage - how can you not think of it as adultery? And it intimates that you, as a wife and woman, are not “good enough” to satisfy/excite your husband - so there must be something wrong with you. From the wife’s perspective, it’s WAAAY more than just him ‘relieving his anxieties’.
 
How very sad for all involved.

I have to ask this. Is it worth breaking up your marriage over this? Is this man a worthy husband and father except for this problem? While he is working on this issue, can the family stay intact? Is this really worth a lifetime as a single parent?
If I cannot trust him, unfortunately, yes. But, I am in no place to make decisions right now. I need to worry about myself and getting myself to a healthy place. THis takes a horrible toll on every part of who you are.
 
If I cannot trust him, unfortunately, yes. But, I am in no place to make decisions right now. I need to worry about myself and getting myself to a healthy place. THis takes a horrible toll on every part of who you are.
I understand you totally to be wanting space and time.In my situation I could not physically have those which led me to have panic attack.Having said that,the Laaser workshop was the best thing that happened to us,I’d like to go to one for myself because I definitely need to grieve and heal.
I understand a lot of things (anxiety etc) are involved in porn.The thing is,I have a lot of issues too and could also get excited by porn or looking at men-and I always knew if I did it it would be adultery in the heart(desires) and in the eyes and in the orgasm too(it is not all the way adultery through touch and emotions,but too much of the person is involved-really!!!)And actually my husband always knew it deep down but would lie to himself to keep doing it I guess.
So it is one form of adultery,not the worse but STILL!
But I believe marriage is worth tremendous efforts,and the soul of your husband too…and yours!!!I feel for you…
 
The man is comitting adultery against you. Seperation is a good idea maybe. You should not go through the continual disrespect and being ripped apart inside by this kind of emotional abuse.
A repentant person does not cheat on his spouse over and over again… thats just not okay. And one does not become an addict over night.
The man has to choose… he can be with you or give himself away to prostitutes but not both at the same time.
 
In my mind, and I venture to say in the minds of most wives, having sex with yourself is the same as having sex with someone else other than your wife. The husband usually needs some sort of visual stimulation and so looks at some form of images of other women for gratification. It is an assault on the unity of the sacrament of marriage - how can you not think of it as adultery? And it intimates that you, as a wife and woman, are not “good enough” to satisfy/excite your husband - so there must be something wrong with you. From the wife’s perspective, it’s WAAAY more than just him ‘relieving his anxieties’.
My point wasn’t to belittle the matter, if that’s how you took it, it was to simply explain the mindset. Frankly I think it should be viewed more as a drug or alcohol addiction situation. They’re all quite serious from a practical and moral standpoint, but for a different reason.

But like I said, it’s not about the wife not being “good enough.” It’s about a damaging habit generally developed during adolescence and fed constantly by today’s culture. I’m not saying it’s not a serious thing and it certainly is damaging to all parties involved, but I am saying it’s quite different from adultery.
 
The man is comitting adultery against you. Seperation is a good idea maybe. You should not go through the continual disrespect and being ripped apart inside by this kind of emotional abuse.
A repentant person does not cheat on his spouse over and over again… thats just not okay. And one does not become an addict over night.
The man has to choose… he can be with you or give himself away to prostitutes but not both at the same time.
Right, the habit was not born overnight and neither will it disppear overnight.

Jesus wouldn’t have died on the cross if “repentant” persons do not sin over and over again.
 
My point wasn’t to belittle the matter, if that’s how you took it, it was to simply explain the mindset. Frankly I think it should be viewed more as a drug or alcohol addiction situation. They’re all quite serious from a practical and moral standpoint, but for a different reason.

But like I said, it’s not about the wife not being “good enough.” It’s about a damaging habit generally developed during adolescence and fed constantly by today’s culture. I’m not saying it’s not a serious thing and it certainly is damaging to all parties involved, but I am saying it’s quite different from adultery.
It is true that it has to be treated like an alcohol addiction,I really believe that.But it is also true it is adultery.There is adultery through the desires-so through the heart and mind-,adultery through the senses (eyes and ears but NOT through the touch or emotions although when the men enjoy “feeling wanted” ,there is a research of emotions too=so there is adultery through SOME emotions),and adultery trough having an orgasm -or some sexual release- provoked by desiring other women than yours-and that is quite physical,not so “virtual”.Anyway there is no such thing as a virtual sin so…

It is NOT the worst form of adultery but it is way more than a bad though,also more than looking at bad advertising(and seeking some pleasure from it).More than fantasizing,etc…
The next step after porn in adultery involves emotional adultery or all of the flesh whichever comes first ,and it is quite frightening to be as close to that next step.
So it is high time for the couple to realize that enough adultery has been going on and that it must stop -using all the tools(sacramental,conselling,groups as for an addiction) ALL the tools they can!

I pray this family can be reunited and work on reparing the damage+building a strong marriage.
 
Well first and foremost, I’m glad you see I wasn’t trying to diminish the seriousness.

Personally I think getting involved with other real people via texting, chatting or whatever else is far, far worse than viewing pornography. I don’t mean in terms of the graveness of the matter, I mean from a practical perspective. That’s when you’ve crossed over the line emotionally with another person.

In its wisdom, the Church duly notes in the Catechism that this kind of sin is habit-forming and since the OP’s husband has struggled with the issue since adolescence, the culpability is surely diminished. I can’t think of a circumstance where culpability is diminished when you’re talking (in person or over the internet) with other real people as opposed to viewing pictures or video.

Basically, my main point is that the problem here and with many other men lies not with their lack of satisfaction in their marriage or attraction to their wives or even their love of them! It lies with a genuine addiction that stemmed from their youth. Does that make it OK? Nope. But in my mind it makes it forgivable (as opposed to cheating with another person) provided that the man makes genuine efforts to combat it and seeks reconciliation if and when he falls.
 
Basically, my main point is that the problem here and with many other men lies not with their lack of satisfaction in their marriage or attraction to their wives or even their love of them! It lies with a genuine addiction that stemmed from their youth. Does that make it OK? Nope. But in my mind it makes it forgivable (as opposed to cheating with another person) provided that the man makes genuine efforts to combat it and seeks reconciliation if and when he falls.
Well said. I realize that it is hard for me to understand just how hurtful this must be from the wife’s perspective (given that I’m not a woman). But it is also hard for me to understand the mindset of kicking the husband out of the house, rather than trying to get help for the addiction and for the marriage. It’s not as if the husband one day decided that his wife wasn’t attractive, and therefore he would rather begin looking at porn instead. Rather, the addiction to porn was already firmly established before he even met his wife, unless they already knew each other at age 13.

But just to be clear, yes this is a very serious moral issue and a very serious marital issue, and yes the husband needs to take steps right now to stop this behavior.
 
I think Paul summed it up better than I did to be quite honest. I get that it’s very damaging and I’m sure if the roles were reversed I’d be furious, jealous and hurt. But I wouldn’t be nearly as upset as I would be if my wife were actually sleeping with another man. Heck, I’d be more upset if I found out she was “chatting” with another guy online than I would finding out she was watching porn.

Again, men and women are quite different so the responses are going to be different. And the reason more men than women view pornography is chiefly because of those differences between the sexes.

But I still don’t see how that adds up to tossing your spouse out the door… especially since he’s probably more likely to watch pornography when he’s truly alone. That doesn’t help anybody. When you find out your spouse has a gambling or drinking problem, the first response should not be to push him or her away. It should be to pull him or her closer and then find a way to get a leash on the issue so it can be ground out and defeated.
 
Most sex addicts that have had the behavior from the time they are 13 are not just looking at porn. Is it right to go to strip clubs and pay for lap dances that don’t end in intercourse with the stripper but may end in masturbastion later? What about phone sex lines? There are alot of ways for a spouse to cheat on the other that may not actually end in intercourse with the other person. In are heads women may know that there is a problem that doesn’t mean our husband don’t love us. Our hearts are another matter.
 
My point wasn’t to belittle the matter, if that’s how you took it, it was to simply explain the mindset. Frankly I think it should be viewed more as a drug or alcohol addiction situation. They’re all quite serious from a practical and moral standpoint, but for a different reason.

Sorry, but its rather different things. One persons alcohol or drug addiction does not include adultery or enabling the business of prostitution which is a very, very degrading business indeed, with millions of slaves and broken-existences paying the prize. But if you wanna talk about drugs… indeed lets put in the connection: Especially the women in the porn-business - who have very often been abused as little girls or they wouldn’t be in such a degrading business to begin with - are contantly stoned on drugs and alcohol in order to be doing what they do. Furthermore most of them suffer from incurable sexual diseases… Sorry, but I’d rather have my husband becoming drunk 100 times than him viewing porn even once.
The women in the sex-industry are some one’s wife, daughter, fiance, or mother who is being XXXXXX so that some person can relive his lust in a manner which destroys the very basic intimacy of a marriage in a very different and deeper way than alcohol abuse does… if you do not see that, sorry, you cannot be helped.


But like I said, it’s not about the wife not being “good enough.” It’s about a damaging habit generally developed during adolescence and fed constantly by today’s culture. I’m not saying it’s not a serious thing and it certainly is damaging to all parties involved, but I am saying it’s quite different from adultery.

No actually it is adultery. Both from Christian sense of the word and from the secular, and as such it is also experienced by the ones who are deceived and cast aside for the company of others for purpuses of sexual satisfaction.
 
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