I am an atheist thread 3

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psyche23 said:
The priests who act in that way, yes. Not the majority of the priests and other Catholics. I am in no way defending the preists who acted in horrible ways. I am merely pointing out that we are all human and that these few do not represent the majority of us. And the collection plate is only to keep the church functioning. Besides most of the extra $ goes to help the poor and needy. Catholics are among the best if not *the * best in terms of almsgiving. I know, I work for a Church. This is not to say some Parishs’ misuse their funds. They too are acting in an inappropriate and sinful way. But you can’t generalize these actions to all Catholics, or even the majority. You shouldn’t trust a priest who is not acting in a holy manner just as you shouldn’t trust an athiest acting in a immoral fashion.
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I just note that anything with humans in it has errors. Like this post here. I hafe barely had one beer (and a shot), and already I feel like distracting you from this serious stuff.

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_A said:
It counts as a story, but no more.
There are many contemperary stories of miraculous healers. There is no well-documented case of an amputee being healed (meaning having his missing limb replaced).
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A, your basic question was: “Why doesn’t God heal amputees? Does He hate them?”

Since you have made it abundantly clear that you don’t believe in God, what you were really asking for was a story of when the Christian God healed an amputee. So people gave you stories. What more do you want?
 
Armor_of_God said:
A, your basic question was: “Why doesn’t God heal amputees? Does He hate them?”

Since you have made it abundantly clear that you don’t believe in God, what you were really asking for was a story of when the Christian God healed an amputee. So people gave you stories. What more do you want?
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I guess to point out how the contemperary miracle healings are invariably from other ailments.

Have you had a drink? It seems many here are…
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_A said:
It was asked of me why I distrust the church so much, so I pointed out the corruption that is so obvious that everyone knows it. I also asked why anyone would expect better than this (clearly fallible) in the higher echelons.
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corruption is everywhere, why focus only on the church? Just because the people are fallible, doesn’t make the teachings fallible… I’m speaking here obviously of the Pope and only in terms of faith and morals.
 
“I just note that anything with humans in it has errors. Like this post here. I hafe barely had one beer (and a shot), and already I feel like distracting you from this serious stuff.”

Very nice!!! 👍
 
_A said:
It counts as a story, but no more.
There are many contemperary stories of miraculous healers. There is no well-documented case of an amputee being healed (meaning having his missing limb replaced).
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And for purposes of this discussion every account that might be presented of amputees that were healed would also be discounted by you as “just another story.”
 
Natural Selection in reverse has caused me a funny. A shelf full of liquor and nothing to drink. (if I am being fussy - and I am)
I have a little beer, which saves me, but nothing on the booze shelf is worth drinking. I attribute it to Natural Selection. Over the years, I have tried many types of alcohol (as you can see) and the ones which are not successful (not enjoyed by my sweetheart, myself or our few regular guests) are left on the shelf. All the yummiest boozes get drank, and because no=one drinks the others, they fill the shelf and trick me into thinking I have drinks.
By the way, my favorites which are missing are tanqueray gin, lemon hart rum. Anyone have any to share?



Help yourself to a drink!
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_A said:
But the ones who rape children are proof enough that they don’t always act 'in accordance with church teaching.
At least I hope so, and that was the point I was trying to make. They can’t be trusted because there is no way for the lay person to tell if they are doing their job, or doing something against their ‘mission statement’ (sorry if I am using the wrong term here)
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I don’t believe anyone ever said that people who belong to the Church always act in accordance with the Church.
 
_A said:
Natural Selection in reverse has caused me a funny. A shelf full of liquor and nothing to drink. (if I am being fussy - and I am)
I have a little beer, which saves me, but nothing on the booze shelf is worth drinking. I attribute it to Natural Selection. Over the years, I have tried many types of alcohol (as you can see) and the ones which are not successful (not enjoyed by my sweetheart, myself or our few regular guests) are left on the shelf. All the yummiest boozes get drank, and because no=one drinks the others, they fill the shelf and trick me into thinking I have drinks.
By the way, my favorites which are missing are tanqueray gin, lemon hart rum. Anyone have any to share?

Help yourself to a drink!
👍
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A typical atheist response to any hard situation. I will merely drink it away. How do you feel after that a little bit tipsy? When you wake up in the morning and realize that your entire life has been a joke and that you have lived for false senses of pleasure and indulgence that really have nothing behind them. Then you continue to live your life with nothing, just mediocrity. You waste away trying to have a good time. Years pass you are looking towards the end and what have you accomplished? Nothing. As the light begins to fade and the gates of hell open up you realize that you should have made better use of your time on earth.
 
_A said:
Natural Selection in reverse has caused me a funny. A shelf full of liquor and nothing to drink. (if I am being fussy - and I am)
I have a little beer, which saves me, but nothing on the booze shelf is worth drinking. I attribute it to Natural Selection. Over the years, I have tried many types of alcohol (as you can see) and the ones which are not successful (not enjoyed by my sweetheart, myself or our few regular guests) are left on the shelf. All the yummiest boozes get drank, and because no=one drinks the others, they fill the shelf and trick me into thinking I have drinks.
By the way, my favorites which are missing are tanqueray gin, lemon hart rum. Anyone have any to share?

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Help yourself to a drink!
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Sorry to hear that! Have a vitual drink- on me!!!😃
 
holdencaulfield said:
A typical atheist response to any hard situation. I will merely drink it away. How do you feel after that a little bit tipsy? When you wake up in the morning and realize that your entire life has been a joke and that you have lived for false senses of pleasure and indulgence that really have nothing behind them. Then you continue to live your life with nothing, just mediocrity. You waste away trying to have a good time. Years pass you are looking towards the end and what have you accomplished? Nothing. As the light begins to fade and the gates of hell open up you realize that you should have made better use of your time on earth.
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I think this was just a friendly type thing. I mean it is Friday night afterall and we’re still here typing away. I’m no drunk, but it’s kind of nice having a drink with “friends” online… This is my first time doing that. I find it quite fun seeing as how I’m living in a new place and have no one to hang out with just yet. so I’m just going to enjoy this drink with “friends”.
 
psyche23 said:
I think this was just a friendly type thing. I mean it is Friday night afterall and we’re still here typing away. I’m no drunk, but it’s kind of nice having a drink with “friends” online… This is my first time doing that. I find it quite fun seeing as how I’m living in a new place and have no one to hang out with just yet. so I’m just going to enjoy this drink with “friends”.
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Sorry, I’m tired and somewhat short tempered this evening.
 
holdencaulfield said:
A typical atheist response to any hard situation. I will merely drink it away. How do you feel after that a little bit tipsy? When you wake up in the morning and realize that your entire life has been a joke and that you have lived for false senses of pleasure and indulgence that really have nothing behind them. Then you continue to live your life with nothing, just mediocrity. You waste away trying to have a good time. Years pass you are looking towards the end and what have you accomplished? Nothing. As the light begins to fade and the gates of hell open up you realize that you should have made better use of your time on earth.
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How christian of you to say.
Have a lovely night anyway.
 
psyche23 said:
I think this was just a friendly type thing. I mean it is Friday night afterall and we’re still here typing away. I’m no drunk, but it’s kind of nice having a drink with “friends” online… This is my first time doing that. I find it quite fun seeing as how I’m living in a new place and have no one to hang out with just yet. so I’m just going to enjoy this drink with “friends”.
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Glad to join you. To celebrate your new place, I am having another slug of Remy (out of my sweethears’ flask).
[SIGN]Cheers![/SIGN]
 
_A said:
The bible places the age of the earth at around 6000 years. Modern scientific evidence shows that this figure is wrong by several orders of magnitude.
There is one glaring example of the bible being incorrect. How many do you need?
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Good evening “A”

First I do not think you understand much of history and it’s relationship to evidence, science, and theology.

They are not seperate and in division of eachother as secularists would like you to believe.

Both science and at least the Catholic Religion have expanded their minds together arm in arm.

When science comes into division with Religion is when science tries to state conjectures ( no proof) without fact.

Remember now the word University is a Catholic word and institutuon. Higher learning in western civilization began with the Catholic Church as it continues today.

science and the Catholic Church working together.

Evolutionary and Molecular Biology
This collection of twenty-two research papers is the result of the third of five international research conferences co-sponsored by the Vatican Observatory in Rome and the Center for Theology and the Natural Sciences. The papers explore the creative interaction between evolutionary and molecular biology, philosophy, and theology. The topics addressed in the papers include an extensive introduction to the scientific background; evolution and divine action particularly in terms of teleology; religious interpretations of biological themes especially as related to evolution; and the problem of evil from a biological and ethical perspective
 
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