I can't believe you all are not LDS(Mormon)!

[RebeccaJ]

Absolutely. Hell, I Mormon-ed my way into the Catholic Church.

Yet, you and whyme have yet to Catholic yourselves out of Mormonism.

 

[MelanieAnne]

Hi Rebecca,

Well, as you well know, Mormonism is not just a religion, it’s also a lifestyle. Many people cannot stand the thought of the social isolation that comes from leaving the Mormon faith. Some people put their livelihood at risk by doing so.

There have been various posters on these fora on various threads posting from time to time about how they go to Mass, but they also attend their LDS meetings. They’re Catholic, but they keep up the old Mormon connection for the social aspects & to keep the peace in their family. They don’t take the sacrament at Sacrament meeting, but to all outward appearances, they’re Mormon. Now this is NOT the same as WhyMe, but it does illustrate the hold that the Mormon church has on some people, even those that have converted to another faith.

 

[tundramom]

To be honest, I have never been to a mormon meeting where the guys would wear hats during the meeting or the conference. It seems unmormonlike to me. And this makes this video very suspicious. Now I could be wrong but how do I know that this is an actual mormon meeting?

Oh that is just a red herring here why me.
Do you even know who Robert Millet is? Have you ever heard him talk? Haven’t you been watching BYU-TV? What is it that you’re trying to prove by this “suspicious” argument?

I counted two young men in the audience wearing baseball caps. To me, the setting looked like a college setting or perhaps high school seminary.

Maybe these boys couldn’t find their way to Mr. Mac to get the blue suits, red ties, and white shirts. Or maybe this was their P-day?

Your argument is suspicious. The video is not.

in Christ
Steph

 

[RebeccaJ]

Hi Rebecca,

Well, as you well know, Mormonism is not just a religion, it’s also a lifestyle. Many people cannot stand the thought of the social isolation that comes from leaving the Mormon faith. Some people put their livelihood at risk by doing so.

There have been various posters on these fora on various threads posting from time to time about how they go to Mass, but they also attend their LDS meetings. They’re Catholic, but they keep up the old Mormon connection for the social aspects & to keep the peace in their family. They don’t take the sacrament at Sacrament meeting, but to all outward appearances, they’re Mormon. Now this is NOT the same as WhyMe, but it does illustrate the hold that the Mormon church has on some people, even those that have converted to another faith.

Yeah, I know. From what Tsuzuki posts over at MADB, he does participate in the Mormon sacrament and temple ceremonies.

 

[MelanieAnne]

Yeah, I know. From what Tsuzuki posts over at MADB, he does participate in the Mormon sacrament and temple ceremonies.

I can actually understand, although I wouldn’t do it myself, holding on to Mormon social ties by attending meetings, and still going to Mass as a Catholic.

But you have to draw the line at taking Mormon sacraments and participating in Temple rituals. Someone that is doing that is not Catholic.

 

[nebula]

I can actually understand, although I wouldn’t do it myself, holding on to Mormon social ties by attending meetings, and still going to Mass as a Catholic.

But you have to draw the line at taking Mormon sacraments and participating in Temple rituals. Someone that is doing that is not Catholic.

I don’t know how that is possible since Mormon and Catholic theologies are mutually exclusive… unless someone isn’t being completely honest on either side.

 

[why_me]

Whyme, I’m sure you believe that. But you come across as a Mormon apologist and as someone who has rejected the Catholic faith.

I have never posted anything negative about the catholic faith. I just defend the lds faith against slander. In fact, I can very well defend the catholic faith against slander also. I would make a very good catholic apologist.

 

[FCEGM]

Okay I took time and read some Catholic stuff on the site today. I also was sent a link to errors in the book of Mormon which I read.

To answer someones question a while back I got a calling in the nursery teacher

That’s very good, lizs; thank you for taking the time to try to know what the Catholic Church actually teaches and not just go by what some think the Church teaches. I hope you will continue visiting CAF - and know now that no one here hates you.

God bless you always - especially as you teach the little ones entrusted to your care.

 

[MelanieAnne]

I don’t know how that is possible since Mormon and Catholic theologies are mutually exclusive… unless someone isn’t being completely honest on either side.

You’re right, it’s not possible theologically. It’s not done for theological reasons. The grip that the Mormons have on their people ~ in all aspects of their lives ~ makes it very difficult to leave the church. The social ostracism is total ~ regardless of the fact that every Mormon will tell you this is not church policy.

Some people resolve this dilemma by continuing to attend Mormon meetings, not taking the Mormon Sacrament, and also attending Mass. It keeps the peace in their family and their social life intact.

I don’t recommend it, but I have seen what the social isolation does to people when they leave the Mormon church. They lose all the people that they used to think were their “friends”. Some people cannot handle that emotionally. So they find ways around it. This is one way.

 

[MelanieAnne]

I have never posted anything negative about the catholic faith. I just defend the lds faith against slander. In fact, I can very well defend the catholic faith against slander also. I would make a very good catholic apologist.

I never said that you criticize the Catholic faith. But you do not come across as a Catholic in any way.

 

[why_me]

Maybe they are a different sect of Mormon than what you belong too?

May the peace of the Lord be with you,
Prodigal Son1

There is only one lds church and it is centered in Salt Lake CIty. All other charletan ‘mormon’ churches have not been very successful. Mormons would claim that heavenly father favors the lds church and because of this, it has been very successful in bringing the true message of christ to people and to nations.

Oh by the way, have you heard of the Reformed Catholic Church in Venesuela? They have married priests and seem to be very pro-Chavez. The members were once members of the catholic church centered in Rome.

 

[zerinus]

Oh, boy…do I really want to get into this? Again? Hmmm…

No, not really. I will stick to stating that no non-LDS linguist accepts the idea of “Reformed Egyptian”, either as a language or a script. The LSA doesn’t accept it, and neither do I. . . .

And you thought that I as a Mormon gave a hoot about that? There are hundreds of thousands of learned scholars, academics, scientists, archaeologists, anthropologists etc. etc. in the world who do not “accept” the Resurrection, for the same kinds of reasons. I don’t give a hoot about that, any more than I do about this.

zerinus

 

[RebeccaJ]

There is only one lds church and it is centered in Salt Lake CIty. All other charletan ‘mormon’ churches have not been very successful. Mormons would claim that heavenly father favors the lds church and because of this, it has been very successful in bringing the true message of christ to people and to nations.

whyme, Paul warns specifically against measuring the things of God according to the standards of men. Mormons equate materialism and good statistics to Godly success. This is yet another of their errors.

 

[MelanieAnne]

The true message of Jesus Christ is the Catholic faith. I’ve yet to see the Mormon missionaries bring that message to anyone.

 

[sola_scriptura]

There’s always the Presbyterian church

Alright already I’m just kidding … well I mean joking (enjoy your religion, unless you’re Mormon ). Okay, I’ll stop making Mormon jokes … it’s just that one of my favorite episodes of South Park was the Mormon one, I keep thinking about the back track.

You know Cartman is Catholic?

 

[dzheremi]

And you thought that I as a Mormon gave a hoot about that? There are hundreds of thousands of learned scholars, academics, scientists, archaeologists, anthropologists etc. etc. in the world who do not “accept” the Resurrection, for the same kinds of reasons. I don’t give a hoot about that, any more than I do about this.

zerinus

That’s nice and all, but not what we were talking about.

I never claimed that you cared about any evidence. It’s pretty obvious that you don’t, but I just figured I’d spell out what the general opinion of people who actually study such things for a living is, in case you actually have some sort of evidence to present that might substantiate your book’s claim. As it is, the “evidence” that has been presented by others has been shown to be inconsistent with what we do know about the languages, peoples, and places of the time under consideration, so it has been rejected.

 

[Julian_1066]

Oh, there is SO much more. In several magazines devoted to American history I saw the “Holiness To The Lord” parchment proven to be a plagiarism from the “Clavicula Salomonis,” a medieval book of black magic, and likewise saw photographs of “magic daggers” and a “Jupiter talisman” belonging to the “holy prophet of God.”

Joseph Smith became a Master Mason and lifted some Masonic rituals for his Temple endowments, especially the oaths. If anyone cares to buy a copy of “Duncan’s Freemasonry” available through nearly any bookstore, he or she can read almost word for word the awesome oaths people are required to swear in the Temple…move over, jack the ripper!

Upshot of it all? Former black magician, financial fraudster, adulterer…handpicked by the Almighty to be a God like unto himself.

You be the judge. yes, and DO read the BoM. it’s an eyeopener for certain!

• Julian

 

[Carl_Nicholas]

And you thought that I as a Mormon gave a hoot about that? There are hundreds of thousands of learned scholars, academics, scientists, archaeologists, anthropologists etc. etc. in the world who do not “accept” the Resurrection, for the same kinds of reasons. I don’t give a hoot about that, any more than I do about this.

zerinus

Hi Mr. " Z "

" Don’t give a hoot about that "

Seems to be the problem as I see it.

No matter what the questions are, you and others deflect the evaluation of so many LDS claims or offer circular reasoning in regard to the topic being discussed. I will never understand ( considering the monumental amount of claims you " so call defend " , but really offer no defense at all, rather offer " don’t give a hoot " replies,) why a devout LDS member can not find solid ground in any of these claims to share with us.

In addition, for you and other LDS to simply answer all of these claims with " I know it is true because I know it " is highly frustrating for someone like me.

God bless,
Carl

God bless,
Carl

 

[prodigal-sun]

I have been a Mormon all my life and to this day I can’t believe you all are other religions! If you read the Book of Mormon you would truly see it is true. I don’t know why you all choose to read anti materials and listen to EXMormons.

I feel bad for those who have lost the true gospel but there is always time to come back. I have been reading posts for about 6 months and have decided to join. I have always been interested in the whole Idea people are Catholic because they seemed a bit messed up. I mean you bow down to a Pope. So very sad.

Sorry everyone, I just read this first post and couldn’t help myself.

Peace:thumbsup:

 

[Jerusha]

That is not very funny. Sad to say, that is the way many LDS people think. She does not need ridicule, she needs prayer.