I can't believe you all are not LDS(Mormon)!

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Honestly does anyone think a Mormon will be steered away from their church? This is the stuff of deprogrammers & cannot be achieved online.

I like to come on this forum to sharpen my iron; and I’m under no delusion that I will steer anyone toward the reformed protestant tradition. I get a kick out of those who think I’m a poor protestant that needs to saved & come home to Rome … my guess is everyone is equally locked into their respective camp. Hey I think the same thing of anyone who is not reformed …
 
sola_scriptura said:
Honestly does anyone think a Mormon will be steered away from their church? This is the stuff of deprogrammers & cannot be achieved online.

I like to come on this forum to sharpen my iron; and I’m under no delusion that I will steer anyone toward the reformed protestant tradition. I get a kick out of those who think I’m a poor protestant that needs to saved & come home to Rome … my guess is everyone is equally locked into their respective camp. Hey I think the same thing of anyone who is not reformed …
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sola,

You’d be surprised. My interactions with others online helped me to figure out my own theology, when I was an active Mormon, and through defending Mormonism come to see the theology clearly. That was an important step in my eventual leaving of the LDS church. I think that when we are forced to explain things to others, defend our beliefs and so on, that things that we wouldn’t have explored otherwise are pushed to the forefront. YOu never know.
 
nebula said:
sola,

You’d be surprised. My interactions with others online helped me to figure out my own theology, when I was an active Mormon, and through defending Mormonism come to see the theology clearly. That was an important step in my eventual leaving of the LDS church. I think that when we are forced to explain things to others, defend our beliefs and so on, that things that we wouldn’t have explored otherwise are pushed to the forefront. YOu never know.
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Then I readily retract my statement & I’m glad you left LDS. Curious did you become protestant or catholic?
 
sola_scriptura said:
Then I readily retract my statement & I’m glad you left LDS. Curious did you become protestant or catholic?
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Neither. Right now I’d say some kind of general Christian. I only ‘left’ (stopped showing up, really) the LDS church maybe 8 mos ago or so and I’m still sorting out a lot of stuff. The main things I believe is that there is one God who is truly infinite, I am finite and dependent on this God, that the Bible attests to His activities with us, HIs creation, and that through Christ God seeks to reconcile the world. Beyond that, still unsure.
 
That is a great step forward already, Nebula. May God bless you and guide you on your journey. 🙂
 
zerinus said:
I don’t know what you are thanking him for; it is in fact it is a great step backwards! 😃

zerinus
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zerinus,

You really think so? YOu’re the first Mormon who has expressed interest in my ‘step backwards’ anywhere so it must not be that big of a deal… 😉 … but really, I’m doing a lot of studying, and if hte LDS church is really the one true church of God, I’m sure the truthfulness of it will become ever more apparent, don’t you think?
 
This thread illustrates a common problem. Mormonism is “sold” to prospective members (or taught to existing ones) as if it were a mainstream Christian faith. This is a departure from the past. There were times in the past when Mormons sought to distinguish themselves from other faiths. Now they want to be thought of as “mainstream” when they clearly are NOT. And the “mainstream” has not accepted them.

These days, all the weirdo stuff of Mormonism is ignored or at least minimized. Prospective converts are given the bare minimum and they never hear about the magic rocks used to translate the Book of Mormon or God being a polygamist or any of that. And they certainly are not informed of the fact that mitochondrial DNA has totally disproved the Book of Mormon story.

It’s actually very possible that someone could come from a Mormon family and not know all the details of Mormonism. And because the Mormon faith exercises such control over its members, many find it very difficult to leave even after they encounter some of the weirdness and realize that the faith is false.

Unless someone has lived under this sort of control, it’s hard to explain it, but suffice it to say that many Mormons stay connected, albeit tenuously, because to leave completely would cause unbelievable social, and perhaps professional, harm. Many people find that a prospect that would be impossible to endure. It’s not all that different from those who chose to leave a parish because of some social slight, it’s just reversed. Some Mormons STAY for the social benefits, regardless of the flaws in the religion.
 
whoever started this thread is a fake. last night the thread posted by the same OP was “I’m going to RCIA”. this person was telling us how sad her life had been and how her parents would kill her if they knew she was in this forum and then she also said her died had died 4 months earlier. i knew last night it was a hoax. can’t the moderators spot these fakes!
 
deborahaz said:
whoever started this thread is a fake. last night the thread posted by the same OP was “I’m going to RCIA”. this person was telling us how sad her life had been and how her parents would kill her if they knew she was in this forum and then she also said her died had died 4 months earlier. i knew last night it was a hoax. can’t the moderators spot these fakes!
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Fake is a possibility. Troubled and conflicted is also a possibility. If one of my parents had died recently, I’m sure I’d be conflicted and emotional, how about you?

I think we have to give people the benefit of the doubt until they show they are not worthy of it.
 
believe me, if you would have read the thread last night about going to the RCIA and now she can’t believe everyone is not mormon. tsuksuki the mormon rite catholic was on the same thread last night two. probably one and the same people. he likes chaos.
 
MelanieAnne said:
Fake is a possibility. Troubled and conflicted is also a possibility. If one of my parents had died recently, I’m sure I’d be conflicted and emotional, how about you?

I think we have to give people the benefit of the doubt until they show they are not worthy of it.
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I dont see how we can afford NOT to take her at her word. If she is sincerely looking into being Catholic we must support her. if she is a troll well so be it. i dont mind beng played for the fool when something as important as this is involved.
 
deborahaz said:
believe me, if you would have read the thread last night about going to the RCIA and now she can’t believe everyone is not mormon. tsuksuki the mormon rite catholic was on the same thread last night two. probably one and the same people. he likes chaos.
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Actually, the “I can’t believe you all are not LDS” thread came first. So it’s either a quick converson or a hoax. I hope it’s the former.
 
Debora, you may be right. But there was a former Mormon in my RCIA class so I know it happens.

And you could very well be right about chaos. If so that is not a sign that God is at work since our God is orderly, not chaotic.

One of the things I appreciate about the Catholic faith is that you don’t have to check your brain at the door, the faith itself makes sense. The same cannot be said for Mormonism and all the magical thinking involved to accept that faith.
 
nebula said:
zerinus,

You really think so? YOu’re the first Mormon who has expressed interest in my ‘step backwards’ anywhere so it must not be that big of a deal… 😉 … but really, I’m doing a lot of studying, and if hte LDS church is really the one true church of God, I’m sure the truthfulness of it will become ever more apparent, don’t you think?
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Yes, if you search in the right way. But leaving it is not exactly a right step in that direction—although it is true that many Church members experience a short period of “withdrawal” from the Church (in some form or another) in their lives, before the return to the Church with renewed and strengthened testimony. This is especially true of converts to the Church. Maybe you are passing through such a phase.

zerinus
 
Tsuzuki said:
Perhaps I could interest you in a game of this.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia_(role-playing_game
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First Church of Christ Computer Programmer (FCCC-P) (also referred to as The Assemblers of God in some editions): They believe that the Computer is God. They have their own hymns, services, and worship, and obey the Computer much more than the average Alpha Complex citizen. While secret society membership is still against the law, the FCCC-P is generally ignored, or only given a punitive slap-on-the-wrist. There are interfactional conflicts between different sects of the church, and even simple differences in interpretation can lead to bloodshed.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia_%28role-playing_game%29

That game sounds… unique.
 
I like coffee and and store bought underwear. 👍 Also, my LDS friend informed that she goes to a church that has two wards and her ward’s church services are from 1 pm to 4 pm on Sunday. She is not allowed to go to the morning ward. She is also not allowed to eat out on Sundays.

Beliefs and theology aside, none of this really works for me.
 
nebula said:
Neither. Right now I’d say some kind of general Christian. I only ‘left’ (stopped showing up, really) the LDS church maybe 8 mos ago or so and I’m still sorting out a lot of stuff. The main things I believe is that there is one God who is truly infinite, I am finite and dependent on this God, that the Bible attests to His activities with us, HIs creation, and that through Christ God seeks to reconcile the world. Beyond that, still unsure.
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That is a great first step!

You’ve been around these boards and whether you noticed or not, you have unified the Catholics and Protestants in their support of your decision. No matter our dicussions with obvious disagreements, we all support your decision to seek out the truth, as we all are connected in our belief in Jesus the only Son of the Father from which proceeds the Holy Spirit, one God.

May the peace of the Lord be with you and God Bless,
Prodigal Son1
 
zerinus said:
Yes, if you search in the right way. But leaving it is not exactly a right step in that direction—although it is true that many Church members experience a short period of “withdrawal” from the Church (in some form or another) in their lives, before the return to the Church with renewed and strengthened testimony. This is especially true of converts to the Church. Maybe you are passing through such a phase.

zerinus
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zerinus,

I don’t think so, my disbelief is very deep at this point. I’ve come to the painful conclusion that the whole thing is a fraud.
 
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