Firstly make up your mind you refered to Acts 2:38-39 this Scripture."38Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.” this follows the apostles coming into the street filled with the HS and speaking in other tongues some being (languages understood by men). and imparting to people the gift of the spirit salvation and filling them with HS.
[Now, contrary to your pentecostal interpretation, the bolded parts of those verse show us plainly that they are not about “holyspirit Baptism and Glossolalia”, but about coming to Christ in repentance and water baptism, both necessary for salvation. The verses nowhere even imply “glossolalia” (speaking in tongues). You have forced your own theology onto the passage IMO.
I made myself perfectly clear. Those verses are presentations of the Gospel from the day of Pentecost, but they do not tell the crowds that anything to do with being “baptized in the Holy Spirit” has anything to do with their salvation. I am well familiar with it because I was a deacon in an Assembly of God church and heard it preached that way for many years. I considered it iffy at best then and now much more so.
But it’s really pretty simple…what does the verse actually say? What does St. Peter tell the people to do?
"Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins
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; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." One has to come to Christ to receive the Holy Spirit…
As oposed to you Catholic theology right?
An unsupported and specious allegation, since I simply quote the verse and point up what it actually says. You, however, did not do that…
Baptism in water is a physical symbol, a neccessary step in the christian journey but a symbol none the less
, but the blood washes our sins away not water. a person can be saved without water baptism, you are assuming that all these people who were saved on the day of pentecost were placed under water and baptized, but there was a new type of baptism this was in the HS.You seem to have nothing but a symbolic Christianity…that’s sad.
What did Peter tell the people? What did Ananias say to St. Paul? Acts 22:16 **And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name.’ **
you do draw a long bow this is what makes C.C so unbelievable to those who read the Bible without catholic coloured glasses.
Then prove me wrong. You apparently can’t, or you’d have offered some scriptural refutation so far instead of non-scriptural rhetoric like this and your following remark concerning the deuterocanonical reference.
Well this doesn’t even matter, Just as much inspiration as in Harry Potter.
Do you like the KJV? Is that the only version that you use? I love all these people who tell me that they use “only the 1611 Authorized King James Version Bible” because I always ask to see it and when they hand it over I check carefully to see it’s table of contents. In
every case so far, I have handed it back and had to say, “I’m sorry, but this is not a 1611 KJV Bible.” They flip out usually and look at me as if I just sprouted a spare head, and at that point I tell them that I have held a 1611 KJV in my hands and read it, and that theirs is lacking the Deuterocanonical books that it has and therefore is not a 1611 KJV.
But their preachers and teachers don’t tell 'em that.:tsktsk:
Who should I Believe about Purgatory Jack Chick, or the Early Church Fathers.