The object of the analogy was that onces you found the keys you rested from the search.I was having trouble following your line of thought a few posts back, now I’m totally baffled. Could you dumb in down for me a bit? Are you saying that your lost keys analogy was silly?
But if we fail in those things it still doesn’t really matter as long as we previously accepted Jesus into our hearts as our personal Lord and Savior, right?>>>Lampo
God never fails my friend, only we.
The object of the analogy was that onces you found the keys you rested from the search.
Once you find Jesus as your Savior you find your rest.
It doesn’t mean for you to quit working.
Yes!Do you agree that Paul writes to believers but preaches about avoiding sin?
This theology so very much contradicts Scripture. I gave you earlier a short list of passages that does just that. You addressed two of them and did not show how they cooperate with the OSAS doctrine. Hell is real my friend. Even for those who have “accepted Jesus Christ into their hearts as their personal Lord and Savior.” This OSAS concept is so dangerous. Your sole is at stake here. The dissatisfaction, depression worries, troubles, pains, etc. that you are referring to are instances where we can take up our cross daily as Jesus instructed and offer it to Him as redemptive suffering in reparations for our own sin that we may be with Him in Heaven.There is no chance of you not making it, because it is a gift given to you without your (name removed by moderator)ut.
Now what you do with it will either bless you or curse you.
Curse you not as a loss of your gift (salvation) but loss of your peace with God,
Dissatisfaction, depression, worries, troubles of all kinds, just a living hell.
but even if it were that way anyways, God in us if we keep Him close to our hearts will in this hellish place give us His peace, contentment and the joy of our salvation.
Peace>>>AJ
Why would Paul preach to believers about voiding sin if there salvation was guaranteed? Do you really think we would risk his LIFE telling them to avoid sin because they will endure hardship here on Earth only but in the end they will definitely go to Heaven?Yes!
Lusts of the flesh is what is sin, and the more we try to give it the least amount of attention, the more godliness will be in us.
This formula holds true: Joh 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
We must also be careful that we don’t think ourselves so holy that we are no earthly good. (Pride)
Peace>>>AJ
My view is based on the whole bible. The Old testament is vital to understanding the new.This theology so very much contradicts Scripture. I gave you earlier a short list of passages that does just that. You addressed two of them and did not show how they cooperate with the OSAS doctrine. Hell is real my friend. Even for those who have “accepted Jesus Christ into their hearts as their personal Lord and Savior.” This OSAS concept is so dangerous. Your sole is at stake here. The dissatisfaction, depression worries, troubles, pains, etc. that you are referring to are instances where we can take up our cross daily as Jesus instructed and offer it to Him as redemptive suffering in reparations for our own sin that we may be with Him in Heaven.
So, you are saying that Paul is saying not to sin because it will bring suffering to you while on Earth and that is it. The reason you try to avoid sin sounds very selfish to me. You are only avoiding sin as to not bring pain, suffering and discomfort on to you. Not because it offends God.Curse you not as a loss of your gift (salvation) but loss of your peace with God,
Dissatisfaction, depression, worries, troubles of all kinds, just a living hell.
but even if it were that way anyways, God in us if we keep Him close to our hearts will in this hellish place give us His peace, contentment and the joy of our salvation.
Peace>>>AJ
My view is based on the whole bible.
The Old testament is vital to understanding the new.
No, people only knew what was available to them via the law of Moses, or whatever thoughts they had of a god.Why would Paul preach to believers about voiding sin if there salvation was guaranteed? Do you really think we would risk his LIFE telling them to avoid sin because they will endure hardship here on Earth only but in the end they will definitely go to Heaven?
Rev 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.Unfortunately for you, interpreting it yourself and being your own pope.>>>Lampo
Because the gift is free the following verses apply:
And these verses don’t apply to OSAS:Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
2 Corinthians 13:5-6
1 Thessalonians 5:23
Philippians 2:12
Hebrews 4:1,11
Colossians 1:21-23
Revelation 20:15
Psalms 69:28
Revelation 3:1-5
Hebrews 10:38
Ezekiel 33:12-19
Ezekiel 18:21-24
1 Timothy 4:1
John 2:11 with John 6:16-22, 66
2 Timothy 3:16
Give me some time and I will answer each one of the verses if you like.And these verses don’t apply to OSAS:
2 Corinthians 13:5-6
1 Thessalonians 5:23
Philippians 2:12
Hebrews 4:1,11
Colossians 1:21-23
Revelation 20:15
Psalms 69:28
Revelation 3:1-5
Hebrews 10:38
Ezekiel 33:12-19
Ezekiel 18:21-24
1 Timothy 4:1
John 2:11 with John 6:16-22, 66
2 Timothy 3:16
Lampo said:"If you died right now, are you 100% sure you would go to Heaven? (St. Paul wasn’t)
Lampo said:1 Cor. 9:27 - “No, I drive my body and train it, for fear that, after having preached to others, I myself should be disqualified.”
Yes, we are all called to this royal priesthood. The Catholic Church agrees.Rev 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
I am my own priest, while Jesus is my High priest.
Peace>>>AJ
Sounds good. These will be your fallible interpretations, correct?Give me some time and I will answer each one of the verses if you like.
Right now, I’ve got to do some work to pay the bills.
Later than.
Peace>>>AJ
SIDEBAR!!!: - Would you please show me how you did those quotes? How you separated out my quotes and then added your responses? Thanks a billion!What do you mean, “Paul wasn’t?”
Disqualified from what?