For anyone who is wondering, what I believe is between myself and my God. I search the scriptures and the pre-Nicene church fathers for the truth. Nicene formulas can never express the complexity of the theology of God the Father and the Son of God.
No one is required to believe that neither man nor denomination taught me these things,
but God knows I am telling the truth.
Doctrinal formulas which try to explain these complexities fall short of the truth.
Wow, and here comes the real thinking…If those Doctrines fall short, imagine how short “your thinking” will fall?
You have come here to proudly proclaim what you “obviously” have not been taught by any CC on Earth. It appears as a Catholic you have decided to “accept” false heretical teachings as “absolute” which are arrived from other than the CC. Then you chose to close your mind and not accept any other theory by the CC, which in fact may just save your soul. Not only this, but you then chose to come to a Catholic Forum and defend heretical theory and thinking. Thats mighty Catholic of you I might add.
My friend, that becomes whats called “living in a state of denial.” You painted yourself in a corner and are now depending on the “zarthan religion.” And that foolishness stare’s in the face of 2000-years of Scholars? “Maybe just maybe, in all your wisdom your wrong. Has that thought ever crossed your mind?” The same mind that you must “open” to surpass denial. The Doctrine is arrived at by the intercession of the Holy Spirit. So that isn’t whats falling short of truth, “YOUR” Sola Scriptura theorys are whats failing miserably.
And yes my friend it is “REQUIRED BELIEF” in the Catholic Faith as far as all the Doctrines are concerned. Its obligation as written in Pius IX Bull in 1884. Which you are encouraged to google and read. Its now taught in the Catechism of the Church. And the Doctrines with the Blessed Mother become yet more complex for the fact two were spoken in ex-cathedra, the only two times in History. So we have in fact Three Doctrines which are required belief in the CC inregards to Mary, and of course this goes much deeper in regards to other doctrines and teachings.
The Immaculate Conception
The Assumption
Mary as co-redemtrix with Jesus
And at “THIS POINT” in the road your entitled to believe whatever you chose…“the Easter Bunny” if you so desire.
I realize there are some wonderful minds that come to CAF. Yet here, when 2000-years of scholars stare you in the face. Its a bit bold of one to state their thoughts as absolute, and to proclaim the CC wrong. One must graduate from denial and reach open honesty to understand, maybe, just maybe, their 4.0 gpa is a drop in the buck against 2000-years of scholars.
“The Mary Myth” and how it relates to modern women and Bible has been debated in every major university in the world. Yet in the end the opposed thinking is impressive, and it has 2000-years of scholars which agree with it. Then, when you just look as some of their educations? It becomes so overwhelming, one must quickly conclude they in fact may well be wrong. The modern thinking only promotes “comfortability” in sexual behavior and promotes womens independence. Which in many aspects isn’t wrong or a bad thing. Nonetheless, when theory goes against the grain of virginity which leads to matrimony a Sacrament of the Church. Then one must also conclude that in hind-sight of our modern society this is an error in mankind today. Man must admit we are not so great at choosing mates, and when the religious aspect is removed we fail miserably. Pure nonsense is what we really on, and it doesn’t hold water as statistics clearly show. I don’t even have to go into the corrupt thinking here, the message is clear. The implications of the attack on Mary reach far beyond Virginity and Matrimony, and extend right into sexual immoralty, abortion, pornography, and deviate sexual behavior becomes promoted, then when a human oversteps the line, we prosecute the very behavior we have encouraged.
Erasmus concluded that we as mankind ought admit we don’t have all the answers, yet hold true to church teaching non-dogmatically until God clarifys truth to man. Because the very essense of the FAMILY is whats at stake, and that family has been a documented success in CC history. He was correct.
Or should we sleepwalk to the end of the night in what we “think” might be wrong in our own mind? The thinking behind Mary is only scratched in Luke. The complications are emmense once we analyse in depth.
Take a good look at how the heretical degradation of Mary in Islam has led to the slavery of women and how women are viewed in Islam. Mohammad correlates a pregant woman as insignificant as two goats locking horns.
Look at what its done in Mormon thinking. Collect women? Is anyone collecting women in their 40’s and 50’s? Of course not why go with a 40 when you can have two-20’s?
Look at atheism, marxism, communism and right here in the materialistic thinking of democracy in the USA. What a wicked web we weave. And then rationalize it to fit Gods Universe.
One must look outside this debate to clearly see the ramifications of this debate. I see abomination at every turn. And a weak attempt by man to assume what God accually thinks and then adjust their thinking to include “ALL” mankind. So, don’t go to hell on your own, drag thousands with you? Theres a wonderful philosophy. Mine is “If you can’t help them, then don’t hurt them.” How about we go with that one on a World Wide internet Forum which Thousands read daily? These are “I” “ME” and “MYSELF” theorys presented in opposition to the CC on this thread. Which serve to promote ones own inadaquate behavior. My suggestion is you don’t drag others with you.
