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Feelings are not sinful in themselves. Acting on them, and entertaining thoughts which perpetuate them is what God judges. Big difference between LDS and Catholic thinking on the subject.

And this is important concept, psychologically. Because when a person experiences unaccepable feelings and falls under condemnation because of them, that person may tend to DENY those feelings, which then leads to them spiraling out of control.

Think about it.

I thought Rebecca and I made the point quite clear about there being a balance between women dressing modestly and men taking responsibility for their sexuality.
 
I am only close with one convent. The others I am not involved with. However, the plain clothes nuns are the ones who ask me to read during Mass. I am not a lector but they do need to find volunteers for the reading and I do volunteer.

The convent that I am involved with are very friendly and outgoing. They help the poor and do good work in the parish by offering their Chapel for adoration on Monday nights and their non-cloistered section of the convent for activities such as bible study, retreats and other activities.

If you have outgoing sisters in your parish and they do work among the poor, don’t be shy to volunteer and get to know them. Your life will be much richer regardless if it is rich already.
Why aren’t the nuns/sisters doing the readings themselves? Women are allowed to do all of the readings, except the gospel, which has to be read by an ordained member of the clergy. i.e. Deacon, Priest, Bishop, etc.

If they are a cloistered order, you wouldn’t be doing the readings for their mass at all, because you would be separated from them. The readings are to be read from the Ambo. Which, you would not have access to.
 
Now that rubs the Christian Church the wrong way, keeping sacred secrets. Christians keep no secrets of faith to be imparted only after baptism or confirmation, study continues in those revelations already made to the apostolic Church, but it certainly isn’t secret. If anything, most practising Christians can’t stop from pushing Bible Study.

Mormonism is a gnostic religion, teaching the secrets and initiation rites in much the same way as ancient secret religions such as Mithraism did. They have a secret of salvation that no one else does, not keeping that secret has consequences, such as explaining otherwise “secret” and “private” elements in Church practise and religious formation. People get excommunicated for revealing and questioning those secrets; the Church keeps a tight control on the requirements of salvation for members, and dangles the carrot, but more often uses the rod.

Christian practice has always been that God’s revelations are open to public and personal conscientious scrutiny, far more in Catholic members than Protestants. And, that as the generation of apostles died out, and the next generation of leaders came to prominence in teaching, that revelation was sealed and nothing new need be said to what Jesus and those apostles had already. The Church defines dogma, builds on doctrine to make the practical working out of that dogma possible in people’s lives, and administratively can be held to account when its leaders turn aside and misuse and do not follow the teaching as they teach it.

Catholics have known their bishops, priests, and leadership in general have “carried on” and committed illegal acts all through the history of the Church; some worse than others, but they are not threatened with excommunication, nor loss of salvation simply because they reveal the truth of someone’s actions. That is reserved to those who actually mislead in teaching. Because the Holy Spirit guides it, the Church always, inexplicably at times, corrects for that. And those who have been forced into silence know that God will vindicate them, since the Church of itself is pure and incorruptible, even if it’s membership, being all too human, is not.

So far as I know, Mormon leadership in the First Presidency and Quorum of the twelve, etc. cannot be held to account by individual Mormons when their actions contradict basic morality. How many Mormons had proof that a Quorum member, a First President or Stake President had been carrying on affairs with others not their legal wives, abusing their children, embezzling funds and kept quiet in lieu of having themselves either stripped of their “Temple Recommend”, or actually being excommunicated? Mormons are far more restrained in actions through their leadership as opposed to the conscience than Christians, and they pay the price for surrendering that freedom, not to the Holy Spirit, or Jesus, but to President whatshisname and bishop whozits.
That is not the usual circumstance, and you also know that one of the edicts of wearing temple garments is that they are not to be shown to the world because of their sacred nature. Mormons are never directed by their leadership to use their temple garments to witness their faith. Quite the opposite, they are told to keep them covered and to not talk about them.
 
Not only that, but how much information gleaned from temple recommend interviews is kept as potential blackmail information-- to keep people tithing and prevent them from resigning?
 
Then why was he talking to himself all through the gospels? “Father, why have you forsaken me?” Is this guy mentally ill? Talking to voices in his head? If he’s one God but he talks to himself I think he might need to go to analysis or something.

Come on, just admit it. It’s a silly story and you don’t take it seriously either.
Just for the record, I’m opposed to LDS or any other mind-altering drug.

I mean look at what its done to your brain, you can’t even understand the Divinity of Christ, as much as its been explained to you on these endless threads.

YOu just keep repeating the same LDS induced mumbo jumbo…

Get off of the LDS… its bad for your soul.

Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.
 
I don’t see him fixated on this point, I think he brings it up about as often as he does Catholics as drunks, in need of confession, non-followers of their religion and general Un-Christian like behavior. It seems these are used to qualify any nice thing said about Catholics.
Lets be brutally honest with ourselves, Many, tooooo many Catholics do NOT live according to the teachings of the Church, many do dress improperly, use birth control, are pro-choice, don’t see anything wrong with same sex “marriage,” live with someone without marriage etc. etc. etc… Try to tell them its wrong and they look at you like your from another planet. Far to many do NOT even know the very basics of their Faith. Why they continue to call themselves Catholic, I do not know, when they go against everything that is decent and moral. The Catholic Church is the ONE, TRUE Church founded by Jesus Christ, teaching with all the TRUTHS HE gave the Apostles. The Church will ALWAYS be faithful to its founder Jesus Christ, even tho many do not live up to the Church’s teachings. The Church will always be here for those who repent and want to return. Her arms are always open in Love and Mercy. The Catholic Church has stood the test of time and always will. For the past 2,000 years it has seen kingships come and go, rulers come and go, dictators come and go, nations rise and fall, has suffered the Orthodox Schism, protestant reformation, people within and without have turned against the Church, sinful leaders, women clammering for the female priesthood, (which they will never have) Nuns and priests leaving their vows by the thousands. You name it, the the Church has suffered it and still She stands straight and strong, faithful to her founder Jesus Christ. The Catholic Church still teaches the same doctrine given her by Jesus, still has the same 7 Sacraments, Apostolic Succession, continues to bring Our Precious Lord to her faithful in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. I’d say its about time all Catholics learn what a TREASURE they have in the Catholic Church and then maybe they can help others see that Treasure also. Get used to it folks, the Catholic Church will be here till the end of TIME.
 
Just for the record, I’m opposed to LDS or any other mind-altering drug.

I mean look at what its done to your brain, you can’t even understand the Divinity of Christ, as much as its been explained to you on these endless threads.

YOu just keep repeating the same LDS induced mumbo jumbo…

Get off of the LDS… its bad for your soul.

Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.
Unde venis?
 
Get used to it folks, the Catholic Church will be here till the end of TIME.
well said! i would add that, at the moment after the end of time an awful lot of people will suddenly want to become Catholic.

religion is big business in the western world, especially the US. the US is the religion captitol of the world. All the great dud religions were born here, i won’t name them, they know who they are. the list is a type of who’s who of scam artists, criminals, snakeoil salesmen(women) playing on emotions to get money out of people.

i gthink this is a describing characterisitc of a gonewrong sect. if they dwell a lot on money and the necessity of your giving a lot of it to them, there is probably something fishy going on.
 
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i gthink this is a describing characterisitc of a gonewrong sect. if they dwell a lot on money and the necessity of your giving a lot of it to them, there is probably something fishy going on.
The mormons require 10 percent but this is in the bible too. I don’t give 10 percent. That being said, the lds church has no problem with building maintainance or any other financial need. Many parishes can only hope for such giving by its members. Many just throw a dollar in the basket and think, I did my part. But many parishes are short of money.
 
Actually I prefer Norse mythology myself. Although I have been reading ancient Egyptian mythology recently and believe it or not, it was the “book of Abraham” that got me interested in it.
I believe it. When I was a little kid, they had a Ramses II display at BYU.

I especially liked that old story in the Eddas about Wotan, crucifying himself on the world tree over winter solstice, then resurrecting himself after tripping in the land of the dead. Reminded me of some other story I read someplace, only the Wotan story was much older. 😉

I actually found the Book of Abraham to be incredibly valuable when I was in high school. I read it along with Freud’s Introduction to Psychoanalysis and learned a lot about the prophet.
 
One time, during our conversations she said: Young women should be careful about what they wear because the priest is a human being. Young women should not dress in revealing dress because of this during Mass.
same should go for men, i don’t know why you only mention the way girls dress. women like men’s bodies, too you know, and men often dress for effect.

but when it comes to sin, we should not dwell upon the actions or inactions of others. we cannot affect the behavior of others except by offering good example in our own behavrour, quietly, with dignity.
 
The mormons require 10 percent but this is in the bible too.
it deoends on some interpretations. 10% is a starting point. if a person is really living out the tithe it is closer to 30%. i used to belong to a protestant sect that had this all worked out from scripture.
I don’t give 10 percent. That being said, the lds church has no problem with building maintainance or any other financial need.
you can’t say that with facts and figgers because the mormons don’t make financial reports in detail. they demand the money, it goes into the pot, and only a few in the high end know where it goes and what it does.

there are rich towns and poor towns. i would suspect that the mormons are similar to Cahtolics and other Christain sects in this repsect, that it varies from locale to locale. my parish never talks about money but always receives more than it needs and is able to help support poorer parishes around. i imagine the same would be true of momron wards, where some are in rich areas and some are in poor areas.
Many parishes can only hope for such giving by its members. Many just throw a dollar in the basket and think, I did my part. But many parishes are short of money.
true. but God provides enough. Always has, always will. God doesn’t promise money wealth, you know. some people can give 1%, some people can give 50%, some can’t give anything but are on life support from the parish funds. that is the way God designed it, i believe, and why a tithing demand of 10% across the board is a sign of over legalism, and a sign that something is structurally wrong with the organization.
 
it deoends on some interpretations. 10% is a starting point. if a person is really living out the tithe it is closer to 30%. i used to belong to a protestant sect that had this all worked out from scripture.

you can’t say that with facts and figgers because the mormons don’t make financial reports in detail. they demand the money, it goes into the pot, and only a few in the high end know where it goes and what it does.

there are rich towns and poor towns. i would suspect that the mormons are similar to Cahtolics and other Christain sects in this repsect, that it varies from locale to locale. my parish never talks about money but always receives more than it needs and is able to help support poorer parishes around. i imagine the same would be true of momron wards, where some are in rich areas and some are in poor areas.

true. but God provides enough. Always has, always will. God doesn’t promise money wealth, you know. some people can give 1%, some people can give 50%, some can’t give anything but are on life support from the parish funds. that is the way God designed it, i believe, and why a tithing demand of 10% across the board is a sign of over legalism, and a sign that something is structurally wrong with the organization.
10% doesn’t just refer to money, it also includes time and talent. Many think nothing of going to a nice restaurant and paying $20 for a good dinner, but think they are generous when they put 1$ in the collection.
 
I believe it. When I was a little kid, they had a Ramses II display at BYU.

I especially liked that old story in the Eddas about Wotan, crucifying himself on the world tree over winter solstice, then resurrecting himself after tripping in the land of the dead. Reminded me of some other story I read someplace, only the Wotan story was much older. 😉

I actually found the Book of Abraham to be incredibly valuable when I was in high school. I read it along with Freud’s Introduction to Psychoanalysis and learned a lot about the prophet.
and here I thought with your inanna crush you would be all into her “resurrection” story what with it being the oldest written on we have found. 😃
 
and here I thought with your inanna crush you would be all into her “resurrection” story what with it being the oldest written on we have found. 😃
Hers is less like Jesus’, more like Demeter’s. It’s a fair analogy though. 😃

She’s also a precursor to Mary, the original “queen of heaven”. If I’m gonna pray to a chick, I like Inanna much better than the alternatives. She was into sex, brawling, and having a good time. My kind of goddess!
 
well said! i would add that, at the moment after the end of time an awful lot of people will suddenly want to become Catholic.

religion is big business in the western world, especially the US. the US is the religion captitol of the world. All the great dud religions were born here, i won’t name them, they know who they are. the list is a type of who’s who of scam artists, criminals, snakeoil salesmen(women) playing on emotions to get money out of people.

i gthink this is a describing characterisitc of a gonewrong sect. if they dwell a lot on money and the necessity of your giving a lot of it to them, there is probably something fishy going on.
A moment after the end of time will be just a moment to late.
 
Hers is less like Jesus’, more like Demeter’s. It’s a fair analogy though. 😃

She’s also a precursor to Mary, the original “queen of heaven”. If I’m gonna pray to a chick, I like Inanna much better than the alternatives. She was into sex, brawling, and having a good time. My kind of goddess!
well her cult probably was the longest lived and most widely spread of the pagans. Inanna- Ishtar - Isis - belisama looks like it went on through the roman empire before it died out. elements seem to have inspired some wiccans and certainly it influenced celts and norse. actually pretty good details on her worship in the necronomicon.
i thought you would have homed in on the three days dead, resurrected by someone being sacrificed in her place, etc.
 
well her cult probably was the longest lived and most widely spread of the pagans. Inanna- Ishtar - Isis - belisama looks like it went on through the roman empire before it died out. elements seem to have inspired some wiccans and certainly it influenced celts and norse. actually pretty good details on her worship in the necronomicon.
i thought you would have homed in on the three days dead, resurrected by someone being sacrificed in her place, etc.
The three days dead thing is simple astronomy (at least for people away from the equator).

What’s the necronomicon?
 
The Necronomicon is a work of (poor) fiction, although you can’t tell the bookstore fanboys that.

(I can see LaMar trundling off to his nearest Barnes and Noble and breathlessly requesting a copy !!11! The !!11!! Necronomicon !!!11! while the clerks laugh into their sleeves at him.)
 
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