Immodesty and the lack of respect for women - two sides of the same coin.

[mommamaree]

1sicht -
The property thing bothered me, too. I feel a strong sense of belonging to my husband, and he has engendered that good feeling within me through his loving actions. But he could never get away with referring to me as his property, because human beings cannot be property of another person or any institution. I also feel that I am lucky enough to have a husband who is mine, and he belongs to me, although my way of thinking about his belonging is different than how I think about my belonging. Probably the romantic influence upon my thoughts. But property? No.

 

[GODISLOVE1970]

QUIT POSTING THIS SATANIC IMPURE TRASH ON A FORUM THAT SHOULD BE DEDICATED TO GOD - AND WHO CARES WHY WOMEN DO THIS - THEY WILL BE WONDERING TOO WHEN THEY ARE ROTTING IN HELL AFTER THEY DIED OF AIDS AND ARE GETTING RAPED BY SATAN AND HIS MINIONS - HA-HA LOSERS!!!

WHY WOULD YOU EVEN BRING UP THIS SATAN WORSHIPPING TRASH ANYONE WHO EVEN THINKS OR TALKS ABOUT THIS IGNORANT GARBAGE ESPECIALLY ON A RELIGIOUS WEBSITE SMELLS LIKE PIG VOMIT LIKE HIS MASTER - SATAN.

Women are not special - if they dress immodestly - they deserve DISRESPECT!!! Any of these women who dress or act like pigs deserve everything coming to them. Why would they deserve respect? THis is not a feminazi bulldyke liberal website it is a site TO PRAISE AND WORSHIP MY BEAUTIFUL GOD - not to talk about women who are ignorant and deserve disrespect and whatever else is coming their pig way! So go to a satanic chat room and whine about “women’s” issues there.

And women who are in impure professions and worshipping satan by doing this are subhuman pieces of scum who deserve whats coming to them: AIDS and death of body and soul! TOO BAD SO SAD!!!

 

[RachelKH]

think of going grocery shopping right at meal time and how much harder than normal it is to make good decisions of what to buy – everything looks so good! you just can’t resist sometimes! you forget your list get load the cart with doughnuts, cookies, whatever your craving is. it is so much easier to stick to your list when you aren’t hungry, right?
ok, think of men a little like the hungry shopper – it is much more difficult to ‘stick to the shopping list items’ (thinking of only your wife’s body rather than every female you come across) when everything ‘looks so good’ (when women are dressed to attract your eyes, wearing exposed thighs, cleavage, lots of skin, or tightly covered to reveal all those curves).
don’t assume you are not causing others to sin in their weakness just because you are ‘more comfortable this way.’
be a friend to all – be modest in your dress!

 

[Kat127]

think of going grocery shopping right at meal time and how much harder than normal it is to make good decisions of what to buy – everything looks so good! you just can’t resist sometimes! you forget your list get load the cart with doughnuts, cookies, whatever your craving is. it is so much easier to stick to your list when you aren’t hungry, right?
ok, think of men a little like the hungry shopper – it is much more difficult to ‘stick to the shopping list items’ (thinking of only your wife’s body rather than every female you come across) when everything ‘looks so good’ (when women are dressed to attract your eyes, wearing exposed thighs, cleavage, lots of skin, or tightly covered to reveal all those curves).
don’t assume you are not causing others to sin in their weakness just because you are ‘more comfortable this way.’
be a friend to all – be modest in your dress!

I won’t flaunt my legs when the boys stop flaunting their jobs/cars/muscles.

That’ll solve everything, right? Right?

 

[Serap]

think of going grocery shopping right at meal time and how much harder than normal it is to make good decisions of what to buy – everything looks so good! you just can’t resist sometimes! you forget your list get load the cart with doughnuts, cookies, whatever your craving is. it is so much easier to stick to your list when you aren’t hungry, right?
ok, think of men a little like the hungry shopper – it is much more difficult to ‘stick to the shopping list items’ (thinking of only your wife’s body rather than every female you come across) when everything ‘looks so good’ (when women are dressed to attract your eyes, wearing exposed thighs, cleavage, lots of skin, or tightly covered to reveal all those curves).
don’t assume you are not causing others to sin in their weakness just because you are ‘more comfortable this way.’
be a friend to all – be modest in your dress!

better go find my potato sack dresses

oh but then, my husband will complain that I don’t look pretty anymore and he may look elsewhere…what’s a woman to do.

 

[marymary1975]

Bucket: I ask myself exactly the same question.

And the dressing thing should go for men too. I am tired of watching men showing their underwears on the street.

 

[CountrySinger]

Bucket: I ask myself exactly the same question.

And the dressing thing should go for men too. I am tired of watching men showing their underwears on the street.

cues “Pants on the Ground”

“Acting like a fool with your pants on the ground”.

And men’s underwear is not as cute as women’s.

 

[marymary1975]

I challenge you to go somewhere in a long-flowing hippie-style dress with flower motifs and pull out an attorney business card.

If you do that, I will go to court in a cream suit, black tie and gangsta hat. Oh wait, I already have.

:thumbsup:

 

[LilyM]

I challenge you to go somewhere in a long-flowing hippie-style dress with flower motifs and pull out an attorney business card.

If you do that, I will go to court in a cream suit, black tie and gangsta hat. Oh wait, I already have.

Well, I’ve told people in a few unlikely situations, outside business hours and definitely not while in office attire, that I’m a lawyer by profession. No-one disbelieves me, strangely enough. Maybe it’s the nitpicky and slightly argumentative manner that gives it away

 

[challam2010]

I’ve lived in Paris and can guarantee you that the beautiful women there (and they’re ALL beautiful) dress with style, panache, chic – NEVER look slutty or slobby…
and we all know what the favorite spare-time activity is of the French…(wink)

 

[BlueShadow123]

you should respect anybody no matter how they look or what they’re wearing. and its not just woman. men dress skimpy too you know.

 

[TedDC]

I’ve lived in Paris and can guarantee you that the beautiful women there (and they’re ALL beautiful) dress with style, panache, chic – NEVER look slutty or slobby…
and we all know what the favorite spare-time activity is of the French…(wink)

You’re referring to daily Mass, of course

 

[Serap]

you should respect anybody no matter how they look or what they’re wearing. and its not just woman. men dress skimpy too you know.

But many will jump all over you and say that it’s not the same…that men are “wired” that way and they can’t help it.

 

[CountrySinger]

But many will jump all over you and say that it’s not the same…that men are “wired” that way and they can’t help it.

So it’s up to women to be the virtuous ones, and men get off the hook. I expect my boyfriend to follow a virtuous life as well.

It’s not horny man vs. pure chaste woman. That is the stereotypical battle, and we are just feeding into it. Women can get turned on by a man dressed sexily. Women have sex drives as well.

Whenever it is said that men are ruled by their desires, and can’t control them, it is insulting. Men are compared to animals. And it makes me angry.

 

[LilyM]

But many will jump all over you and say that it’s not the same…that men are “wired” that way and they can’t help it.

Not at all. Men are (and should be) expected to be every bit as considerate of women’s weaknesses and every bit as committed to dressing modestly themselves as women. The moral and canon law on this matter is entirely gender-neutral.

In fact it was a very wise man (St Paul) who talked about us not putting stumbling blocks in front of our brothers when we can avoid doing so.

 

[BlueShadow123]

you expect me to think that men get off the hook?
seriously? Saying that a men cant control what he thinks or what he looks at is complete BS.
they are responsible for keeping their own mind clean.

 

[LilyM]

you expect me to think that men get off the hook?
seriously? Saying that a men cant control what he thinks or what he looks at is complete BS.
they are responsible for keeping their own mind clean.

A man is responsible for keeping his own mind clean, yes - and you’re responsible for helping him do so as much as you can.

The fact that he is responsible, ultimately, for controlling his thoughts doesn’t let YOU off the hook or mean you’re not responsible for dressing yourself modestly.

For many reasons - your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit and a tabernacle of the Lord, for one, and deserves to be dressed in a way fitting its status as such. That is, veiled in modesty as the Tabernacle is in many churches.

 

[BlueShadow123]

A man is responsible for keeping his own mind clean, yes - and you’re responsible for helping him do so as much as you can.

The fact that he is responsible, ultimately, for controlling his thoughts doesn’t let YOU off the hook or mean you’re not responsible for dressing yourself modestly.

For many reasons - your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit and a tabernacle of the Lord, for one, and deserves to be dressed in a way fitting its status as such. That is, veiled in modesty as the Tabernacle is in many churches.

Well DUH!
I dont dress slutty in the first place, so its not an issue. But im saying that a man is also responsible for NOT looking at a girl when she is dressing immoral. all he has to do is turn away. and yes, he is able to turn away so dont try to say hes not.
Oh, and men shouldn’t be showing off their bodies then either.

 

[MarcieM]

Interesting. I spent the last 2 years wearing long dresses/skirts almost exclusively. I’m moving away from it somewhat, mostly because I’m trying to more more active and I don’t want to ride a bike or roller skate in a skirt. When I wear pants I do try to wear extra long tops.

I do think wearing feminine clothes brings dignity to women, however I have had my skirt blown up to my neck by a gust of wind on more than one occasion. I’ve also bent down to pick up a little one, had their foot catch on the hem of my dress and pull my skirt up along with the child.

I don’t want to say “anything goes” but there are some occasions when pants are more modest than skirts. As long as clothing isn’t too tight or baring, I don’t have a problem with it.

 

[CountrySinger]

I do think wearing feminine clothes brings dignity to women, however I have had my skirt blown up to my neck by a gust of wind on more than one occasion. I’ve also bent down to pick up a little one, had their foot catch on the hem of my dress and pull my skirt up along with the child.

I don’t want to say “anything goes” but there are some occasions when pants are more modest than skirts. As long as clothing isn’t too tight or baring, I don’t have a problem with it.

Wind is my enemy at times! I’m glad I’m not alone! There’s a reason I wear pants most of the time (enough men by my bus stop have seen my “Victoria’s Secret” caused by a sudden gust of wind). Coupled with rain, pants are the far and away winner! The men don’t think so for some reason.