Impact of Climate Change Is Hitting Home, U.S. Report Finds

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Irrelevant. It traps more than the rest of the air does, therefore there is more heat. It’s really that simple. And NH4 (methane) traps some five times as much as CO2, and its presence in the atmosphere is increasing too. And since more is being trapped now then before, there is more heat. It really is that simple.
Ahhhh but it isn’t that simple. 🙂

AND I think you know it.
I have already explained it in my first post. There are literally dozens of factors, including even the wobble of the rotational axis of the earth that cause fluctuations.
No, you explained variables that not figured into the original AGW hypothesis.
Not a chemist, are you?
I’ll stand by my statement.
globalwarmingart.com/wiki/File:Atmospheric_Transmission_png
 
Even though greenhouse gases may be on the rise, temperature can still drop TEMPORARILY, due to other factors such as solar flares, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, wobble of the earth’s axis, closeness of the earth to the sun, supernovas, etc, etc. The overall trend, though, is still rising, despite fluctuations due to these other causes.
You have 20 years of so called warming attributed to CO2 rise… 17 years of no rise.

Maybe, you can explain scientifically why the 20 year period is seen by Alarmist as permanent and the 17 year stall as “TEMPORARILY”?
 
Have you even been reading half of my posts? For the UMPTEENTH TIME, (And read this carefully, because there is no reason on God’s temporarily green earth why I should have to repeat myself this much) there are dozens of factors that effect temperature of the earth. .
Agreed. So why do you insist that CO2 is driving temperatures higher (even when it isn’t)?
 
Ahhhh but it isn’t that simple. 🙂

AND I think you know it.
But it is that simple. Yes, there are other factors that cause fluctuations. But they cause only fluctuations. They do not cause change that is indefinite for the foreseeable future if we don’t figure out how to fix it soon.
No, you explained variables that not figured into the original AGW hypothesis.
Well there’s your problem. You’re basing it all on the original hypothesis. Scientists haven’t been using that for years. The only reason I know about the many other variables is because climate scientists have been factoring them into their data for years.

I’ll stand by my statement.
globalwarmingart.com/wiki/File:Atmospheric_Transmission_png
Because a website called “global warming art” that is wiki based is a credible source of information.
You have 20 years of so called warming attributed to CO2 rise… 17 years of no rise.
20? No. 8000? Yes.
 
Agreed. So why do you insist that CO2 is driving temperatures higher (even when it isn’t)?
I *literally *explained it in that exact quote you posted. If you’re just going to be intentionally difficult like this, say so now and I won’t waste my time on you anymore.
 
I *literally *explained it in that exact quote you posted. If you’re just going to be intentionally difficult like this, say so now and I won’t waste my time on you anymore.
I’d get frustrated too if I were a true believer in anthropological global warming and had to explain it to an educated person.
 
But it is that simple. Yes, there are other factors that cause fluctuations. But they cause only fluctuations.
17 years not following the AGW hypothesis is NOT a fluctuation. It’s a major fail.
Well there’s your problem. You’re basing it all on the original hypothesis. Scientists haven’t been using that for years. The only reason I know about the many other variables is because climate scientists have been factoring them into their data for years.
They would not have if it hadn’t been for skeptics pointing out the flaws in their hypothesis. They are only trying to give excuses why the hypothesis has failed to produce.
Because a website called “global warming art” that is wiki based is a credible source of information.
Debate the graphs - so far you have offered NO support for your claims. I would have to give it way more cred than you?
8000? Yes.
Ha ha ha ha! 😃

YES! 20 years… The greenhouse effect was to cause global cooling in 1975
 
Farsight,
It is pointless to debate. We have all the facts but that makes no difference to conspiracy enthusiats. NASA, American Meteorological Society, Scientific American, Royal Society, and EVERY scientific organization in the world (according to them) are part of the conspiracy and all falsify data. Therefore, it is pointless to debate them because all legitimate data will be ignored by them.
They even ignore their own senses. Everyone has noticed the massive change in our weather except them. I remember when ice fishing was very common (Michigan) now it almost never happens. Heck, I remember cars and even large trucks driving out onto the ice. A friend of mine is from Texas and says that the duck season is almost non-existent because it is so warm up north the ducks dont need to fly south. Go to post 275 and you will see that ranchers (hardly left wing pinkos part of a global conspiracy:D) are definitely concerned about global warming because they have had direct experience with its effect.
 
Farsight,
It is pointless to debate. We have all the facts but that makes no difference to conspiracy enthusiats. NASA, American Meteorological Society, Scientific American, Royal Society, and EVERY scientific organization in the world (according to them) are part of the conspiracy and all falsify data. Therefore, it is pointless to debate them because all legitimate data will be ignored by them.
We have evidence of NOAA - NASA - CRU - IPCC falsifying / tampering data.

What data do you want to present as evidence? 🙂

How about SATELLITE data? Will it support your claims?
 
We are so lucky to have SamH and kimmielittle here. Two people that understand global warming more then the American Meteorological Society, Scientific American, National Geographic and EVERY legitimate scientific organization in the world!!!😃
We should send them to NASA and the American Meteorological Society to educate those thousands of silly scientists!😃
 
Farsight,
It is pointless to debate. We have all the facts but that makes no difference to conspiracy enthusiats. NASA, American Meteorological Society, Scientific American, Royal Society, and EVERY scientific organization in the world (according to them) are part of the conspiracy and all falsify data. Therefore, it is pointless to debate them because all legitimate data will be ignored by them.
Much of the information I base my position on is supplied by those very organizations. The fact that I can read and dissimulate information is hardly cause to use the term “conspiracy enthusiast”. Pointing out the fact that many of the claims made by anthropological global warming worshippers conflict with observed and recorded climate history does not make one a “denier”, it just makes them aware.
 
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Well at least you are honest about how extreme your views are. The entire world’s scientific community is part of an evil conspiracy!
 
We are so lucky to have SamH and kimmielittle here. Two people that understand global warming more then the American Meteorological Society, Scientific American, National Geographic and EVERY legitimate scientific organization in the world!!!😃
We should send them to NASA and the American Meteorological Society to educate those thousands of silly scientists!😃
With backing like that you’d think you could offer concrete proof of your claims. :rolleyes:
 
Satellite photos ABSOLUTELY confirm global warming.
I hope that you at least agree that the arctic and mountain glaciers are melting. However, you might be fooled by claims from conspiracy sites that claim that antarctica is not melting. It is!
 
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Well at least you are honest about how extreme your views are. The entire world’s scientific community is part of an evil conspiracy!
I wonder why thousands of scientist have signed the Heidelberg Appeal. A document decrying “an irrational ideology which is opposed to scientific and industrial progress, and impedes economic and social development.”
 
Satellite photos ABSOLUTELY confirm global warming.
I hope that you at least agree that the arctic and mountain glaciers are melting. However, you might be fooled by claims from conspiracy sites that claim that antarctica is not melting. It is!
You mean the photos of Antarctica’s ice shelf growing?
 
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How? You already rejected my data from NASA, Scientific American…because they are part of the conspiracy. You rejected the NASA graph, from the NASA site,that clearly shows an upswing in temps. You also rejected the data that backs up my claims in the over 20 sites I gave. All sites are respected. Unfortunately, you believe that the entire world’s scientific community is part of a conspiracy. In other words it is pointless to debate you because when one rules out the possibility of any empirical data,the debate declines into name calling. Which you have proven is a talent of yours.
 
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