Impact of Climate Change Is Hitting Home, U.S. Report Finds

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Do some googling. The overall mass is decreasing. Please stay current and get data from respected sites and not some conspiracy blog.
 
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Do some googling. The overall mass is decreasing. Please stay current and get data from respected sites and not some conspiracy blog.
In a press release ESA announced that the measurements from their 2010-2011 campaigns show the height of Antarctic ice to be an average of nine centimetres higher than the measurements obtained during the 2008-2009 campaigns.

en.mercopress.com/2012/03/31/height-of-antarctica-ice-sheet-increasing

Europe’s Space Administration runs a conspiracy blog?:rolleyes:
 
Satellite photos ABSOLUTELY confirm global warming.
I hope that you at least agree that the arctic and mountain glaciers are melting. However, you might be fooled by claims from conspiracy sites that claim that antarctica is not melting. It is!
🙂 You are just to easy.

Prove your claims.
suyts.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/global-sea-ice-update-266-thousand-sq-kilometers-more-than-usual/ 266 thousand sq kilometers more than usual

SOURCE: arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/

BTW Satellite Temperature data doesn’t support your claims .
 
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Do some googling. The overall mass is decreasing. Please stay current and get data from respected sites and not some conspiracy blog.
arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.anomaly.antarctic.png

The** Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research **report prepared for last week’s meeting of Antarctic Treaty nations in Washington noted the South Pole had shown “significant cooling in recent decades.”

Australia Antarctic Division glaciology program head Ian Allison said sea ice losses in west Antarctica over the past 30 years had been more than offset by increases in the Ross Sea region, just one sector of east Antarctica.

Read more: foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517035,00.html#ixzz2NSee0vxg

Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research has a conspiracy blog?
 
arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.anomaly.antarctic.png

The** Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research **report prepared for last week’s meeting of Antarctic Treaty nations in Washington noted the South Pole had shown “significant cooling in recent decades.”

Australia Antarctic Division glaciology program head Ian Allison said sea ice losses in west Antarctica over the past 30 years had been more than offset by increases in the Ross Sea region, just one sector of east Antarctica.

Read more: foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517035,00.html#ixzz2NSee0vxg

Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research has a conspiracy blog?
ANYONE that doesn’t follow…is a conspirator. 😉
 
arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.anomaly.antarctic.png

The** Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research **report prepared for last week’s meeting of Antarctic Treaty nations in Washington noted the South Pole had shown “significant cooling in recent decades.”

Australia Antarctic Division glaciology program head Ian Allison said sea ice losses in west Antarctica over the past 30 years had been more than offset by increases in the Ross Sea region, just one sector of east Antarctica.

Read more: foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517035,00.html#ixzz2NSee0vxg

Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research has a conspiracy blog?
SamH we must consult with that great authority Al Gore before deciding the credibilty of the Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research.

Enjoying the discussing here. Would either side weigh in on the credibiliy Bjorn Lomborg who is known as the Skeptical Environmentalist. I have heard him several times and while he says there may be some warming trend basing on centuries that a) it’s not enough to cause panic b) nothing we could do would make a difference and would be prohibitively expensive. His theory is that if you look at human misery around the globe, funds wasted on all this climat-**** would be better spent on disease prevention, food safety etc. Again just a bunch of limosine liberals inflicting THEIR values on suffering humanity. Ask someone in Africa who’s lost family members to malaria (entirely preventable) whether it’s more important to fight mosquitos or global warming?

Lisa
 
It is amazing how you (or your sources ) distort things.
The Heidelberg appeal only states that humans and human needs must take priority. 49 of the Noble laureates (more then half) that signed the Heidelberg appeal also signed “world scientists warninhg to humanity” which was very strong in its opinion that AGW is a very serious threat.
 
Good grief! Fox news? What next?. The national enquirer? Stories about bat boy?
Google “antarctica melting” * and go to a legitimate site (NASA for example, but yeah I know they are part of the conspiracy,so use another LEGITIMATE site) you will discover that antarctica is actually warming faster then was once thought. Also the data is more current, Dec 2012 for example.
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SamH we must consult with that great authority Al Gore before deciding the credibilty of the Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research.

Enjoying the discussing here. Would either side weigh in on the credibiliy Bjorn Lomborg who is known as the Skeptical Environmentalist. I have heard him several times and while he says there may be some warming trend basing on centuries that a) it’s not enough to cause panic b) nothing we could do would make a difference and would be prohibitively expensive. His theory is that if you look at human misery around the globe, funds wasted on all this climat-**** would be better spent on disease prevention, food safety etc. Again just a bunch of limosine liberals inflicting THEIR values on suffering humanity. Ask someone in Africa who’s lost family members to malaria (entirely preventable) whether it’s more important to fight mosquitos or global warming?

Lisa
Hiyas! 🙂

Mr. Bjorn Lomborg is very credible IMO.

AGW-CAGW has NEVER been about the environment.
 
I’d get frustrated too if I were a true believer in anthropological global warming and had to explain it to an educated person.
I’ll tell you if that’s true when I find one.
17 years not following the AGW hypothesis is NOT a fluctuation. It’s a major fail.
When the scale is thousands of years, 17 is a blip.
They would not have if it hadn’t been for skeptics pointing out the flaws in their hypothesis. They are only trying to give excuses why the hypothesis has failed to produce.
This does not reflect reality. As usual, they figured out the flaws themselves and corrected then. Then some know-nothings came along, found the old data, didn’t know there was new, more complete data, and complained.
Debate the graphs - so far you have offered NO support for your claims. I would have to give it way more cred than you?
Ha ha ha ha! 😃
How do I debate a graph that doesn’t even have x and y-axis labels? I don’t even know what period in history its supposed to apply to!
YES! 20 years… The greenhouse effect was to cause global cooling in 1975
It wasn’t greenhouse gases. Something was causing cooling, but greenhouse gases literally cannot cause cooling. It violates the laws of physics.
With backing like that you’d think you could offer concrete proof of your claims. :rolleyes:
Do not equate your inability to understand the proof with their inability to provide it. They provided it. You seem to have some mental block preventing you from understanding it. I’d say it’s not their problem, but the truth is that your perspective leads to disrespect of the environment and further pollution and global warming which could potentially wind up being apocalyptic eventually, so it’s everybody’s problem.
 
Good grief! Fox news? What next?. The national enquirer? Stories about bat boy?
Google “antarctica melting” * and go to a legitimate site (NASA for example, but yeah I know they are part of the conspiracy,so use another LEGITIMATE site) you will discover that antarctica is actually warming faster then was once thought. Also the data is more current, Dec 2012 for example.
It’s posts such as this that cause me not to take any claims you make serious.

We BOTH gave you the source - arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/ The Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research. The data is days old.

Maybe, you should update your data?
 
Hiyas! 🙂

Mr. Bjorn Lomborg is very credible IMO.

AGW-CAGW has NEVER been about the environment.
No like most Leftist thought it’s about the elites having greater control over us great unwashed. It’s just like Obamacare was NEVER about healthcare. Sometimes I wonder if we are living in l984 😃 where up is down and truth is false.

Lisa
 
Here is information from legitimate sources about Antarctica melting.
nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/20100108_Is_Antarctica_Melting.html
bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20804192
cnn.com/2012/11/29/world/europe/climate-ice-sheets
Here is why fox “news” is not legitimate,
youtube.com/watch?v=bqA8oxY6aao
youtube.com/watch?v=kgOkuI9gBLQ
I cannot believe I drove to the library, just for this! Well actually, the wife and I decided to go out to eat and I asked her if I could drop by the library for a few minutes. Anyway, I’ll probably be gone for the rest of the night!🙂
 
No like most Leftist thought it’s about the elites having greater control over us great unwashed. It’s just like Obamacare was NEVER about healthcare. Sometimes I wonder if we are living in l984 😃 where up is down and truth is false.

Lisa
And how is “please respect the environment and use less energy so we burn less fossil fuels and preserve the environment” about control? And since when is it leftist?
 
I’ll tell you if that’s true when I find one.

When the scale is thousands of years, 17 is a blip.
You have not supported your thousand year claim - below I’ll support my 1970 claim.
How do I debate a graph that doesn’t even have x and y-axis labels? I don’t even know what period in history its supposed to apply to!
I gave you the link.

I
t wasn’t greenhouse gases. Something was causing cooling, but greenhouse gases literally cannot cause cooling. It violates the laws of physics.
Science 9 July 1971:
Vol. 173 no. 3992 pp. 138-141
DOI: 10.1126/science.173.3992.138
Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide and Aerosols: Effects of Large Increases on Global Climate
S. I. Rasool, S. H. Schneider
Institute for Space Studies, Goddard Space Flight Center, National Aeronautics and Space Administration, New York 10025
Abstract
Effects on the global temperature of large increases in carbon dioxide and aerosol densities in the atmosphere of Earth have been computed. It is found that, although the addition of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere does increase the surface temperature, the rate of temperature increase diminishes with increasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. For aerosols, however, the net effect of increase in density is to reduce the surface temperature of Earth. Because of the exponential dependence of the backscattering, the rate of temperature decrease is augmented with increasing aerosol content. An increase by only a factor of 4 in global aerosol background concentration may be sufficient to reduce the surface temperature by as much as 3.5 ° K. If sustained over a period of several years, such a temperature decrease over the whole globe is believed to be sufficient to trigger an ice age.
He used Mr James Hansen’s program.

sciencemag.org/content/173/3992/138.abstract
 
And how is “please respect the environment and use less energy so we burn less fossil fuels and preserve the environment” about control? And since when is it leftist?
Since when does someone who doesn’t believe the facts don’t support the AGW-CAGW anti-environmental?

Maybe, some should step down from their horse? 🤷
 
And how is “please respect the environment and use less energy so we burn less fossil fuels and preserve the environment” about control? And since when is it leftist?
I would bet 99.99% of “Enviornmentalists” are Leftists. It has become a new religion complete with a creed, rites and a dogma. Conservatives as the name denotes want to conserve but what the Enviro-nuts continue to promote isn’t a nice “please respect the environment…” approach but demands for taxes, fines, and wealth transfers (another sign of Leftism).

The Left is very concerned about snails, slugs and small fish. Less interested in the welfare of people whose livelihoods are taken away as we endeavor to save some critter that will not be missed. I live in EnviorNut land believe me. Logic doesn’t matter when there is an ideology to be protected!

Here is an example: Forest management used to include application of pesticides to prevent infestations of bark beetles, gypsy moths and other tree eaters. EPA shut down use of said pesticides to “save the environment.” Bugs moved in, ate the trees, they all died and then burned. Golly that was smart 😃

The real problem with this whole climate change hysteria is that the cure is worse than the disease.

Lisa
 
I don’t know why in the world you think that data supports your claims. Perhaps you are not reading it right?
I firmly believe, reading comprehension is an acquired skill. 🙂

I made no “claim”.

I countered the claim with a reference. Debate it with them.
 
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