Impact of Climate Change Is Hitting Home, U.S. Report Finds

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Please click on the links at 275
There is a ton of empirical data. Why should I post when you don’t read my posts?
So NASA falsified data?😃
 
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However, if the cycles were natural, we would be cooler.
my bold ]

Your evidence for that claim would be…? The same hypothesis that says rising CO2 has to dramatically raise temperatures?

Look if the hypothesis isn’t working…doing as projected - it fails!
If it fails in ONE direction - it FAILS in both.
You are misunderstanding what he said.
Ya “it’s a travesty”. 🙂
 
Actually, every reputable scientific organization has ( in the climate field) provided evidence
that temperatures have increased MORE then their original projections. Scientists are conservative in their projections. However, even they were shocked at how much they had underestimated the impact of global warming.
 
That is a very weird graph.
Where is it from?
OK,I get it. However, I’d like to know where it is from. I have graphs from legitimate sources.
 
Please click on the links at 275
There is a ton of empirical data. Why should I post when you don’t read my posts?
Actually, I have read your links… Many of them I have in PDF forrmat.
So NASA falsified data?😃
You be the judge: This is only one example ]
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, November 17, 2008
Climate scientists allied with the IPCC have been caught citing fake data to make the case that global warming is accelerating, a shocking example of mass public deception that could spell the beginning of the end for the acceptance of man-made climate change theories.
On Monday, NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), run by Al Gore’s chief scientific ally, Dr James Hansen, announced that last month was the hottest October on record.
“This was startling,” reports the London Telegraph. “Across the world there were reports of unseasonal snow and plummeting temperatures last month, from the American Great Plains to China, and from the Alps to New Zealand. China’s official news agency reported that Tibet had suffered its “worst snowstorm ever”. In the US, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration registered 63 local snowfall records and 115 lowest-ever temperatures for the month, and ranked it as only the 70th-warmest October in 114 years.”
It soon came to light that the data produced by NASA to make the claim, and in particular temperature records covering large areas of Russia, was merely carried over from the previous month. NASA had used temperature records from the naturally hotter month of September and claimed they represented temperature figures in October.
prisonplanet.com/ipcc-scientists-caught-producing-false-data-to-push-global-warming.html

SEARCH: " NASA falsified data " You should have enough reading for awhile 🙂
 
Climategate was imvestigated and proven to be all hype. I’ll supply the sites. But right now I am on a tablet. To say,“I have found a neat trick” is like saying," I have found a neat trick to solve this calculus problem in half the time."
Seriously, no one familiar with the topic takes “climategate” seriously.
 
That is a very weird graph.
Where is it from?
OK,I get it. However, I’d like to know where it is from. I have graphs from legitimate sources.
Had you read the link you would have found where it came from.

Here you are debating AGW and don’t recognize the Grandfather Graph?
 
Climategate was imvestigated and proven to be all hype.
You need to catch up. 🙂

CLIMATEGATE2.0
<1939> Thorne/MetO: Observations do not show rising temperatures throughout the tropical troposphere unless you accept one single study and approach and discount a wealth of others. This is just downright dangerous. We need to communicate the uncertainty and be honest.
<3066> Thorne: I also think the science is being manipulated to put a political spin on it, which for all our sakes might not be too clever in the long run.
<4755> Overpeck: The trick may be to decide on the main message and use that to guid[e] what’s included and what is left out.
Read more: foxnews.com/scitech/2011/11/22/climategate-20-more-emails-leaked-from-climate-researchers/#ixzz2NIOXGQEC

SEARCH-ABLE DATABASE:
foia2011.org/
I’ll supply the sites.
I’ve read them, as you can see from my above links.

]
 
Actually, every reputable scientific organization has ( in the climate field) provided evidence
that temperatures have increased MORE then their original projections. Scientists are conservative in their projections. However, even they were shocked at how much they had underestimated the impact of global warming.
You are so right. I just received info on the June 2013 edition of the American Behavioral Scientist about CC denialism (luckily I have access to Sage pubs), and the Freudenburg and Muselli article is about how the denialist machine has actually made scientists more cautious in their claims, underestimating climate change. Below is the list.

It is interesting that one of the CAF denialists actually cited an article several years back by one of the authors here, Myanna Lahsen (an anthropologist), as having disproved climate change. So I guess everyone is a climate scientist and reality is just a matter of public opinion or which ever way the wind happens to blow. One thing is for sure, though; social scientists are needed to study the number one climate forcing of our time, perhaps a more important factor than CO2 – us humans.

“Climate Change Skepticism and Denial,” Special Edition of the American Behavioral Scientist, June 2013
  • Riley E. Dunlap, “Climate Change Skepticism and Denial: An Introduction.” doi:10.1177/0002764213477097
  • Riley E. Dunlap and Peter J. Jacques, “Climate Change Denial Books and Conservative Think Tanks: Exploring the Connection” doi:10.1177/0002764213477096
  • Myanna Lahsen, “Anatomy of Dissent: A Cultural Analysis of Climate Skepticism” doi:10.1177/0002764212469799
  • Shaun W. Elsasser and Riley E. Dunlap, “Leading Voices in the Denier Choir: Conservative Columnists’ Dismissal of Global Warming and Denigration of Climate Science” doi:10.1177/0002764212469800
  • William R. Freudenburg and Violetta Muselli, “Re-examining Climate Change Debates: Scientific Disagreement or Scientific Certainty Argumentation Methods (SCAMs)?” doi:10.1177/0002764212458274
  • Maxwell T. Boykoff, “Public Enemy No.1? Understanding Media Representations of Outlier Views on Climate Change” doi:10.1177/0002764213476846
  • Anothy A. Leiserowitz, Edward W. Maibach, Connie Roser-Renouf, Nicholas Smith, Erica Dawson, “Climategate, Public Opinion, and the Loss of Trust” doi:10.1177/0002764212458272
 
Climategate was imvestigated and proven to be all hype. I’ll supply the sites. But right now I am on a tablet. To say,“I have found a neat trick” is like saying," I have found a neat trick to solve this calculus problem in half the time."
Seriously, no one familiar with the topic takes “climategate” seriously.
Wishing it would go away does not make it so.
 
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I’m glad you accept the obvious fact that “climategate” was a fraud and never happened. (factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/
mediamatters.org/research/2009/12/01/climategate-exposed-conservative-media-distort/157590
climatesciencewatch.org/2010/04/17/debunking-%E2%80%98climategate%E2%80%99/
thethirdestate.net/2009/11/debunking-climategate/ )
Now comes the same nonsense, from the same source. Question, if this new “evidence” is so great why didn’t the original hackers use it?
science.time.com/2011/11/23/climategate-2-a-weak-sequel/
blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/11/22/climategate-2-more-ado-about-nothing-again/
Here is the established data ( in legitimate graph form) that proves that global warming has been increasing.
kottke.org/13/03/new-graph-shows-unprecedented-global-warming-over-past-11000-years
thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/10/15/1014151/ten-charts-that-make-clear-the-planet-just-keeps-warming/?mobile=nc
Oh, and here is that conspiracy filled NASA graph!
climate.nasa.gov/interactives/warming_world
Anyway, global warming is an established fact and so is our impact on global warming.
You can find more sites at post 275, but here are some more.
climate.nasa.gov/interactives/warming_world
And yes, I know that Scientific American is part of the conspiracy*, along with NASA and EVERY scientific organization in the world, however, here is its response to the conspiracy enthusiasts.
scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=seven-answers-to-climate-contrarian-nonsense
• Who is behind this conspiracy? Bigfoot? The Masons? The Illuminati?
 
You are so right. I just received info on the June 2013 edition of the American Behavioral Scientist about CC denialism (luckily I have access to Sage pubs), and the Freudenburg and Muselli article is about how the denialist machine has actually made scientists more cautious in their claims, underestimating climate change. Below is the list.

It is interesting that one of the CAF denialists actually cited an article several years back by one of the authors here, Myanna Lahsen (an anthropologist), as having disproved climate change. So I guess everyone is a climate scientist and reality is just a matter of public opinion or which ever way the wind happens to blow. One thing is for sure, though; social scientists are needed to study the number one climate forcing of our time, perhaps a more important factor than CO2 – us humans.

“Climate Change Skepticism and Denial,” Special Edition of the American Behavioral Scientist, June 2013
  • Riley E. Dunlap, “Climate Change Skepticism and Denial: An Introduction.” doi:10.1177/0002764213477097
  • Riley E. Dunlap and Peter J. Jacques, “Climate Change Denial Books and Conservative Think Tanks: Exploring the Connection” doi:10.1177/0002764213477096
  • Myanna Lahsen, “Anatomy of Dissent: A Cultural Analysis of Climate Skepticism” doi:10.1177/0002764212469799
  • Shaun W. Elsasser and Riley E. Dunlap, “Leading Voices in the Denier Choir: Conservative Columnists’ Dismissal of Global Warming and Denigration of Climate Science” doi:10.1177/0002764212469800
  • William R. Freudenburg and Violetta Muselli, “Re-examining Climate Change Debates: Scientific Disagreement or Scientific Certainty Argumentation Methods (SCAMs)?” doi:10.1177/0002764212458274
  • Maxwell T. Boykoff, “Public Enemy No.1? Understanding Media Representations of Outlier Views on Climate Change” doi:10.1177/0002764213476846
  • Anothy A. Leiserowitz, Edward W. Maibach, Connie Roser-Renouf, Nicholas Smith, Erica Dawson, “Climategate, Public Opinion, and the Loss of Trust” doi:10.1177/0002764212458272
Did you actually read, objectively, what the William R. Freudenburg and Violetta Muselli, report says?🙂

Their claim is basically ] that: "Skeptics have politicized the hypothesis of AGW and it’s alarmist claims CAGW ]. Thusly, ruining ‘Climate Science’ "

The problem with reading “What we want to hear” - we lose objectivity.

Empirical evidence i.e history debunks that claim.

James Hansen, when he turned off the air conditioning, during his approach to Congress for more funding for his hypothesis, “politicized” the hypothesis

CRU, when it accepted funding from British Petroleum and Shell Oil, because they saw it as a way to limit their energy competition coal ], “politicized” the hypothesis.

UN - IPCC, “politicized” the hypothesis, by accepting "Gray Literature " , in order to promote the AGW - CAGW hypothesis.

The Climategate doers I.e. Mr Mann etc, “politicized” the hypothesis via Environmental Media - Tides funding / benefits RealClimate sponsorship ].

The history of the “Politicization of AGW - CAGW” is a LONG and SORDID one. AND it did not happen by the “skeptics”.

BEFORE “skeptics” even came along… The hypothesis of AGW - CAGW has been tainted…AND for “political reasons” BY the PROMOTERS of AGW.

“Pot calls the kettle black”.
 
Wishing it would go away does not make it so.
Exactly!! The hoaxers and liars are at it again!!! Now we got climategate 2! Another obvious fraud bankrolled by the petro-chemical industry. AGW has been tainted. By the lies etc of the conspiracy enthusiasts.
I have given tons of empirical evidence, from legitamate sources. For some reason my opponents keep saying they need empirical evidence. I really wish they would read my posts and links before posting gibberish.
 
Since empirical evidence from NASA, Scientific American and every scientific organization of national and/or international reputation is not allowed, what do you allow? Only rants from a conspiracy blog?
 
I’m glad you accept the obvious fact that “climategate” was a fraud and never happened.
HA ha ha ha!

Yes! Virginia, “Climategate” DID happen. Someone DID release emails from East Angola CRU. The emails were verified, by the parties that sent them, to be TRUE and accurate. The ONLY thing contested, is the context of meaning…i.e. “I didn’t mean it’s a travesty we can’t show warming”.

EXACT WORDS:
The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at
Pretty hard to misconstrue the meaning?

algorelied.com/?p=3177

ANOTHER:
The Figure you sent is very deceptive. As an example, historical
runs with PCM look as though they match observations — but the
match is a fluke. PCM has no indirect aerosol forcing and a low
climate sensitivity — compensating errors. In my (perhaps too
view, there have been a number of dishonest presentations of model
results by individual authors and by IPCC. This is why I still use
results from MAGICC to compare with observed temperatures. At least
here I can assess how sensitive matches are to sensitivity and
ANOTHER:
This is from the e-mail file #1255553034:
Subject: Re: BBC U-turn on climate
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:43:54 -0600
Cc: Michael Mann mann@meteo.psu.edu, Kevin Trenberth trenbert@ucar.edu, Stephen H Schneider shs@stanford.edu, Myles Allen allen@atm.ox.ac.uk, peter stott peter.stott@metoffice.gov.uk, “Philip D. Jones” p.jones@uea.ac.uk, Benjamin Santer santer1@llnl.gov, Thomas R Karl Thomas.R.Karl@noaa.gov, Jim Hansen jhansen@giss.nasa.gov, Michael Oppenheimer omichael@Princeton.EDU
I just think that you need to be up front with uncertainties
and the possibility of compensating errors.
Now comes the same nonsense, from the same source. Question, if this new “evidence” is so great why didn’t the original hackers use it?
“Hackers”? Do you have evidence that it was "hacked " and not “released”?

The “hackers” “releaser” NEVER “used” any of the released emails. They just presented them.
Here is the established data ( in legitimate graph form) that proves that global warming has been increasing.
It doesn’t prove Correlation - Causation. We would expect the temperatures to rise…JUST because we are coming out of The Little Ice Age.
WE have empirical evidence of that fact.
Oh, and here is that conspiracy filled NASA graph!
NO, once again you are trying to shuffle the pea. 🙂

That is NOT James Hansen’s’ 1988 graph.
Who is behind this conspiracy? Bigfoot? The Masons? The Illuminati?
HA ha ha ha!
 
Exactly!! The hoaxers and liars are at it again!!! Now we got climategate 2! Another obvious fraud bankrolled by the petro-chemical industry. AGW has been tainted. By the lies etc of the conspiracy enthusiasts.
I have given tons of empirical evidence, from legitamate sources. For some reason my opponents keep saying they need empirical evidence. I really wish they would read my posts and links before posting gibberish.
Why did global warming stop almost two decades ago?
 
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