Impeach Trump?

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Some observations. Fully half of America gritted its teeth for eight years while Barak “Rules for Radicals” Obama tried and failed to make America into a 3rd world collective. And a sexually confused collective at that. His legacy is transsexual bathrooms and the psychologically confused and unfit serving in the military. Something to be proud of. A dystopian society that neither Wells, Huxley nor Orwell dared write of.

The whining, incontinent left is still unable to come to grips with an election loss. President Trump has clearly committed the “High crime and misdemeanor” of strategically gaining a vast majority of electoral votes. Horrors! The progressives/liberals/leftists are bewailing the election results more intensely than the women of Jerusalem bewailed our Lord’s crucifixion. Yes, and particularly the Catholic left.

I ask them how America would be better served with a president: who runs a larger, better orchestrated and so far untouchable international “pay-to-play” scam than the mafia; who, as a lawyer, has a litany of apparent federal crimes in her resumé; who has displayed a clear intent to conceal and deceive while an administration head; who ‘enjoys’ an intriguing list of poor unfortunate associates, friends and co-laborers who have either been murdered or died under extremely unusual circumstances; who has a lifetime, blind ambition solely of gaining the power of the presidency; and worst of all, who delivers condescending lectures in a most intolerable, screechy voice?
 
Tarpeian_Rock said:
And Maxine Waters has already publicly stated that impeaching Pence is next - not that he’s actually done anything at all yet.
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Actually, no.

Maxine specifically said … PUTIN IS NEXT.

I’m sorry but she said it.

Her interviewer “corrected” her response.

Maxine did look a little confused for a second.
 
Della said:
Well, if that’s all it would take, Obama would have been impeached right off the bat, too. Please, this is just plain silly. Impeaching a president is a very serious matter for which very serious crimes would have to be committed. And even then it doesn’t mean a president would be forced out of office. Clinton was impeached for a far more serious offense than a few tweets, but he stayed put. Trump is not going to be impeached or driven from office for the terrible offense of having beaten Hillary for the presidency, which what many on both sides of the aisle are really upset about. :rolleyes:
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Obama didn’t Tweet lies or told lies about former president’s to the American people.

Jim
 
Sy_Noe said:
Were they answered when Obama won not 1 but 2 terms?
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I don’t believe that most of the people who voted for Obami do a lot of praying about anything, some do I’m sure, but the large majority do not.
 
ucfengr said:
I think we can agree that all right thinking people support the impeachment of Trump, the problem is we’ve allowed to much wrongthink to be expressed in public forums. How do we get rid of all the wrongthinking people so the right thinking people can do what’s right?
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We can only be Christ centered so that through the Holy Spirit we will be able to see what is true and speak only what is true.

“Freedom isn’t necessarily having the privilege of choosing between good and evil, but having the ability to chose only good.”

This is God’s freedom and only through Him can we be truly free.

Jim
 
So here’s your history lesson for the day. “Impeachment” means the bringing of charges, for which the sole penalty is removal from office. “Convicted of an impeachable offense” follows trial. For Federal officers, including Supreme Court justices, that trial is held in the United States Senate. It takes two-thirds plus one, because the Vice-President, in his capacity as President of the Senate, has to recuse himself.

Many impeachments have occurred. William O Douglas was impeached for “leftist views” when a member of the Supreme Court, but not removed. Clinton was impeached, but not removed. Nixon was impeached, and resigned. Agnew would have been impeached had he stuck around. Andrew Johnson was impeached, and escaped removal by one vote. It is Johnson’s example which recent generations did not want to see as the precedent–his impeachment was largely over the politics of Southern Reconstruction. The Founding Fathers expected that impeachment would be used regularly as a way to control corruption in office. Checks and balances, people, checks and balances.

There are several excellent tracts from the Nixon era on just what constitutes an impeachable offense. Perjury (false testimony under oath), obstruction of justice (exercising undue influence via a Federal agency, destruction of evidence, or covering up a Federal crime), the actual Federal crime itself (for example, violation of the espionage statutes), or the ones mentioned in the Constitution, treason and bribery, would all be good things to look at as impeachable offenses.

As to this President, IMHO, it’s not “what did the President know and when did he know it,” but “what did the President actually do and when did he order or do it” that any Grand Jury will be looking at. This is not a witch hunt. This is finding of fact. A witch hunt, something of the order of Arthur Miller’s “The Crucible,” involves false or questionable testimony. Say it often enough and they believe it? Not all news is fake news, and it’s time America remembered that.
 
laylow said:
If he is impeached, it means the Vice takes over, correct? How does that help the Democrats?
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Never mind how it helps democrats, but instead, focus on how it helps America.

Even though there is much people on the left disagree with Pence, he’s a far cry from Trump, who’s shown to be in over his head.

Jim
 
stinkcat_14 said:
Source?
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My Brain!

considering a large contingent of Atheist almost had God removed from the DNC handbook tells me alot about the voters.

Of course I could be wrong but I don’t think I am.

Do you know of a source that suggests most voters pray.
 
And just how long are you guys going to continue this flame war? :confused:
 
phil19034 said:
Tweeting misinformation & lies to Americans is not & should not be an impeachable offense.

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All it would take is for a grand jury to call the president before them and testify to the evidence that President Obama wire tapped his phones during the 2016 campaign.

If he tries to push the lie, they can get him on perjury.

If he recant’s what he tweed on this as he should have done by now, then in fact lied and he’ll be as good as impeached for the rest of his term in office.

Jim
 
ProdigalSun said:
My Brain!

considering a large contingent of Atheist almost had God removed from the DNC handbook tells me alot about the voters.

Of course I could be wrong but I don’t think I am.

Do you know of a source that suggests most voters pray.
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My guess is that the praying habits of Obama voters are no different than the praying habits of Trump voters. On these forums, however, I would never suggest that Obama supporters are any less spiritually active than Trump supporters.
 
venite_adoremus said:
And just how long are you guys going to continue this flame war? :confused:
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Not pointing any fingers, but some of our fellow CAF ers got a healthy supply of gas to keep a flame going fer a while 🙂

Let Trump run his government, you can boot him later if he really turns out to be bad - not just because your candidate lost!
 
ChurchSoldier said:
“The effort to impeach President Donald John Trump is already underway.” washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/20/the-campaign-to-impeach-president-trump-has-begun/?utm_term=.82f4191679cf

The rumors that the Democrats want to impeach President Trump have been out there since inauguration day.

My question to the liberals here is: What offense or crime has he committed you think is an impeachable offense?
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I started reading through the whole thread, but the number of pointless and irrelevant digs at Obama got annoying, so I’ll skip right to my answer.

As far as I know, President Trump has done nothing that merits impeachment. I do not think that Democratic Congresspeople should be even talking about starting the process, let alone actually trying to get it going.

Clear enough?
 
JimR-OCDS said:
The medium used is irrelevant.

Trump has lied and mislead the American people repeatedly

I don’t recall Obama outright lying to the American People.

Jim
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Seriously? I have no response then…
 
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