Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

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Ridgerunner said:
You saw it. Glad you finally admitted it.
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Well, I don’t think I saw the one you are talking about because, in the one I saw, Biden wasn’t 'brag[ging] about obstructing justice in Ukraine" so I figure you must be talking about something else.
 
You’ve demonstrated you trust people who were perfectly ok with millions of foreign Chinese government aid illegally assisting a Presidential campaign

While asking to be taken seriously that merely seeking foreign help in Presidential campaigns should be charged

What conversation is there to progress?
 
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JapaneseKappa said:
So why did Zelinsky bring up the fact his team had already been in contact with Giuliani after Trump asked for a favor?
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One of his people spoke with Giuliani, then let Zelensky know, (most likely about Rudy’s experience in rooting our corruption) and Zelensky shared his hope with Trump that he might visit to help, and Trump acknowledged that. Why is it that you assume that is impeachable? That’s nonsense…

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Aquinas11 said:
You’ve demonstrated you trust people who were perfectly ok with millions of foreign Chinese government aid illegally assisting a Presidential campaign

While asking to be taken seriously that merely seeking foreign help in Presidential campaigns should be charged

What conversation is there to progress?
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Well, I think that’s an exaggeration of what I actually said, but it’s fine to discontinue the conversation.
 
JButky said:
One of his people spoke with Giuliani, then let Zelensky know, (most likely about Rudy’s experience in rooting our corruption) and Zelensky shared his hope with Trump that he might visit to help, and Trump acknowledged that.
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Giuliani’s May letter, which predates this July transcript, indicated that Giuliani was going to meet with Ukrainians in a private capacity to seek investigations advantageous to Trump. In this transcript Trump asks Zelensky for a favor, to which Zelensky responds as we see here, essentially saying that he’s already heard about the favor from Giuliani.
 
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If it were truly in the national interest, Trump’s personal attorney should not have been involved.
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Perhaps this was a way to avoid obligations under the official records act?
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You mean like a private email server with Crowdstrike as provider?

Why would lack of intention (as if that is even a legal possibility) work for Hillary but no one else?

Equal justice that is right there.
 
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JapaneseKappa said:
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You mean like a private email server with Crowdstrike as provider?
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Conspiracy theories related to the Trump–Ukraine scandal - Wikipedia
A major aspect of numerous conspiracy theories asserts that CrowdStrike, a publicly traded company headquartered in California,
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It is possible for a company to be “publicly traded” and still be largely owned by one or two individuals.

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www.crowdstrike.com

https://atlanticcouncil.org/expert/dmitri-alperovitch/

From Wikipedia articles on Atlantic Council…
The Ukrainian oligarch [Zlochevsky] running Burisma Holdings donated $100,000 per year for three years to the Atlantic Council starting in 2016.[16]
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And Zlochevsky…
In 2002, he co-founded the largest independent oil and natural gas company Burisma Holdings with Ukrainian businessman Mykola Lisin [uk].[5][6] Through his sole ownership of Cyprus-registered Burisma Holdings, he owns the Ukrainian gas and oil producers Aldea, Pari, Esko-Pivnich, and the First Ukrainian Petroleum Company and the investment group Brociti Investments.[7][8][9]

In 2012, Viktor Pshonka,[a] the Ukrainian prosecutor general, began investigating Burisma Holdings owner, Zlochevsky, over allegations of money laundering, tax evasion, and corruption during 2010-2012.[15][16]
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There are connections all over the place that the Wikipedia article you cited makes no mention of.
 
Donkey said:
Read: Trump letter to Pelosi on impeachment | Fox News

This powerful well written letter from President Trump is IMO a last ditch effort to get the the Democratic Party to quell the hatred they have incited in about half of all Americans. If they don’t back down then the impeachment will be a catch 22…violence…civil unrest. Terrifyingly…the perfect storm.
Few people want to say this because it is horrible.
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Thanks for sharing the link.

This letter was wonderfully written and hit on every point needed to be addressed. I am thankful the President wrote this letter. It will be a great historical
document that describes perfectly what this impeachment is all about.
 
How credible is Parnas with his legal problems?

How trustworthy is he? Another Avenatti?
 
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