Is capitalism a special form of slavery?

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Robert_Sock said:
Help me out here, what causes most everyone to turn their heads and pretend not to notice, or to feel that it’s not their problem?
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Because to acknowledge it would also require identifying systematic issues with capitalism.

You’re also focusing on the most extreme examples of poverty, but even elsewhere people work in terrible conditions to provide the West with consumer goods. They might be slave children mining metals for our iPhones in the Congo or wage slaves working in China to provide us with plastic Christmas tat. I don’t think any of these examples of exploitation can really be reduced to cultural or educational issues like others in this thread are trying to do.
 
Robert_Sock said:
What you’re saying is absurd! Did you ever hear the saying: “Blaming the victim?”
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Why do you keep posting emotional but dishonest pictures that have no reflection of reality on the ground.

We went through this already, war zones were aid can’t penetrate are the only instances that might match your photo. The root cause is WAR not lack of empathy or outside aid resources.
 
Regular_Atheist said:
Because to acknowledge it would also require identifying systematic issues with capitalism.

You’re also focusing on the most extreme examples of poverty, but even elsewhere people work in terrible conditions to provide the West with consumer goods. They might be slave children mining metals for our iPhones in the Congo or wage slaves working in China to provide us with plastic Christmas tat. I don’t think any of these examples of exploitation can really be reduced to cultural or educational issues like others in this thread are trying to do.
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In the past I blamed the news media for not reporting these atrocities, but pope Francis seems to be changing all that by making these types of poverty world issues.
 
Theo520 said:
Why do you keep posting emotional but dishonest pictures that have no reflection of reality on the ground.

We went through this already, war zones were aid can’t penetrate are the only instances that might match your photo. The root cause is WAR not lack of empathy or outside aid resources.
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Just one example: How are those suffering extreme poverty in Calcutta the result of war?
 
Robert_Sock said:
So why do you think the gross inequalities between us and the Third World exists? Even if it’s not a crime that they exists, which it is, it’s clearly a moral evil to just sit back and let people die from malnourishment. Whoever does not give alms according to his or her ability is committing a grave sin against God!
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Because we have a system Of government that encourages job creation and allows people to peruse whatever vocation they desire.They don’t.
 
estesbob said:
Because we have a system Of government that encourages job creation and allows people to peruse whatever vocation they desire.They don’t.
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We also have expanded access to education, better infrastructure, better financial system, among other reasons.
 
Robert_Sock said:
Much of what you say here may be true for some living in the tropical areas, but people and government must still intervene. If education is important in ending hunger, then we must pull together as a group and provide education. Whatever the root of the problem, we must correct it.
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How do you think slavery came about.

Some groups took advantage of their power and captured and sold into slavery other groups.

Check it out.

People and government were not the solutions to the problems; they were the CAUSE of the problem.
 
Robert_Sock said:
Just one example: How are those suffering extreme poverty in Calcutta the result of war?
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India hasn’t experienced a famine since the start of the 20th century and their last significant drought was in 1970-73.

Any problems they have with malnourished are primarily from a bad (incomplete) vegetarian diet, so that is an education problem. Pregnant women are not getting proper nutrition to create and nurture their babies.

Barring a new drought or famine, YES, it’s primarily the responsibility of the Indian people and the Indian Govt to step up and care for their poor in Calcutta.

Naturally, we should support the Indian Govt in doing their job, just not do it for them.
 
Theo520 said:
India hasn’t experienced a famine since the start of the 20th century and their last significant drought was in 1970-73.

Any problems they have with malnourished are primarily from a bad (incomplete) vegetarian diet, so that is an education problem. Pregnant women are not getting proper nutrition to create and nurture their babies.

Barring a new drought or famine, YES, it’s primarily the responsibility of the Indian people and the Indian Govt to step up and care for their poor in Calcutta.

Naturally, we should support the Indian Govt in doing their job, just not do it for them. We should help them be a more responsible Govt, not replace them.
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Theo520 said:
India hasn’t experienced a famine since the start of the 20th century and their last significant drought was in 1970-73.

Any problems they have with malnourished are primarily from a bad (incomplete) vegetarian diet, so that is an education problem. Pregnant women are not getting proper nutrition to create and nurture their babies.

Barring a new drought or famine, YES, it’s primarily the responsibility of the Indian people and the Indian Govt to step up and care for their poor in Calcutta.

Naturally, we should support the Indian Govt in doing their job, just not do it for them.
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What does poor maternal nourishment have to do with children having to eat by digging through garbage heaps?

What kind of nutritional education do the mothers need? Adults too have to beg or dig through garbage heaps just to survive! They live in extreme poverty. The “lucky” ones get to live on $1.00 a day!
 
Robert_Sock said:
Can you please explain how a caste system is a war?
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The caste system may not be a war per se, but it is without question conflict and oppression.

In a society where those who become disabled fall at once to the dirt-floor of the caste system; where the poor need not be helped because they are dealing with “karma”, and where a tycoon can uproot a children’s home to build his mansion and that is acceptable, that’s about as bad as you can get without a war going on.

ICXC NIKA
 
GEddie said:
The caste system may not be a war per se, but it is without question conflict and oppression.

In a society where those who become disabled fall at once to the dirt-floor of the caste system; where the poor need not be helped because they are dealing with “karma”, and where a tycoon can uproot a children’s home to build his mansion and that is acceptable, that’s about as bad as you can get without a war going on.

ICXC NIKA
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Yes, the culture plays a big role, and I would dread having to live in a caste system or a Muslim society. However, with the help of psychologists, sociologists and anthropologists, social change is possible. In a caste system, for example, wouldn’t it be bad karma not to help the less fortunate?
 
Sock, dumpster diving is actually a green trend in the US, so what’s wrong with people doing it in other countries?

 
Robert_Sock said:
Yes, the culture plays a big role, and I would dread having to live in a caste system or a Muslim society. However, with the help of psychologists, sociologists and anthropologists, social change is possible. In a caste system, for example, wouldn’t it be bad karma not to help the less fortunate?
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You need to buy a ticket and visit India.

[Hindu, by the way.]

Less than $1000 round trip from NYC.].

Costa Rica is less than $300 R/T from Miami
 
Robert_Sock said:
I hope I’m wrong, but you seem to be mocking those living in extreme poverty!
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Perhaps you should jump on a plane and spend several years travelling the world.

Maybe then you’ll stop insisting we (west) are responsible for everyone else, that only we can free them to live productive lives.
 
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