Is Church Militant Schismatic?

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However, I would argue that Church Militant does help the Church (in the long run) by exposing corruption.
I struggle with even this though. Is the Church Militant saying or exposing church corruption that other news outlets aren’t or won’t?
I can without a doubt say that without CM or similar outfits, I would not know about half the issues I do know about. Without them, I don’t even know if the negative side of the Amazonian synod would have been covered
 
I just don’t have a lot of use for the content or style of “Pope Militant”
Sometimes the truth hurts. Sometimes speaking the truth results in persecution of that person. E.g. Paul.

Failing to speak the truth for fear of offending someone can be the path to Hell for many people.
 
It is merciful to speak the truth to those who need to hear it. Even if it hurts their feelings.
 
I find it unsettling when someone’s supporters make such comments. Voris does not possess the charism of infallibility, so we can be virtually certain that he has been wrong before and will be wrong again.
 
Who put them in charge of Truth? We have a Pope. The Church has never been a democracy. Their truth is hand selected issues that feed a political agenda. Even if they have a point, they are only accountable to themselves. So the Bishop is right. It isn’t Catholic.
 
Salvation history of full of more evil/sinful/bad leaders of israel/Rome than good. Take that for what it is worth.

Do not rely on leaders. Maybe I’m jaded but putting your trust and faith in the Pope or any leader is just asking for dissappointment
 
You take it as you choose, it is apparent the Pope speaks traditionally for the church and that group speaks for themselves
 
at does Church Militant actually do in terms of exposing church corruption that other news outlets don’t do?

Additionally, I am baffled by the Church Militant’s efforts to defend one of traditionalist pastors from its own area near Detroit on abuse charges. Every time I look at Church Militant there is an article defending this pastor
sometimes they get it right & sometimes they get it wrong.

I take them with a grain of salt. But often regarding their news (not opinion) they are on target or close to the bullseye
 
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But often regarding their news (not opinion) they are on target or close to the bullseye
Well…at least I will say that the Church Militant is not LifeSite. Many people can easily find mistakes and inconsistencies in LifeSite. That can’t be done with Church Militant news. I’ll at least give them that.
 
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The direction the Church is headed is not good. I don’t know why people have such a hard time seeing this.
The reason is most Catholics are Catholic. Faith teaches us that the Church is the bride of Christ and the direction we are headed is to the wedding feast of the lamb. Most Catholics do not live in direct contact with those who make the news, or the pod casts. Michael Voris may be alert Catholics to danger, or he may be amplifying scandal, depending on who you are.

You mentioned the liturgy. What the heck? Why in the world would Catholic not want the most Holy Eucharist, unless your point is you do not like, as a matter of taste, the current liturgy, in which case is that most Catholics do not panic because most priests really do provide the liturgy best for their parish.
 
I can without a doubt say that without CM or similar outfits, I would not know about half the issues I do know about.
This is what bothers me about Michael Voris. Scandal is bad, but spreading it may or may not be a good thing. The Church teaches that calumny and gossips are sins for a reason. If someone’s business model is built around sensationalism and making people lose faith in the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church, it may not be schismatic, but it doesn’t sound too healthy.
 
The direction the Church is headed is not good. I don’t know why people have such a hard time seeing this.
The reason is most Catholics are Catholic. Faith teaches us that the Church is the bride of Christ and the direction we are headed is to the wedding feast of the lamb. Most Catholics do not live in direct contact with those who make the news, or the pod casts. Michael Voris may be alert Catholics to danger, or he may be amplifying scandal, depending on who you are.
Faith doesn’t teach us this. Scripture and Church teaching does. What if in 100 years the Pope said you know what, the Church isn’t the Bride of Christ or that Jesus isn’t reallly God. Should we just sit around in good faith and accept that? No, we should stand up for the Church as the bride of Christ and correct the heresay. My whole point was that the Church has always faltered. God’s chosen people have always faltered. To think we are above that now as a Church is foolish and irresponibly prideful
You mentioned the liturgy. What the heck? Why in the world would Catholic not want the most Holy Eucharist, unless your point is you do not like, as a matter of taste, the current liturgy, in which case is that most Catholics do not panic because most priests really do provide the liturgy best for their parish.
My point on the liturgy is that what used to make us Catholic is being stripped away slowly. Very slowly. And that is the plan of the evil one. 30% of Catholics don’t believe in the real presence. attendence is down. Their is a priest shortage. There is a lack of reference. Catholicism today looks vastly different than it did 100 years ago and it is because, IMHO, the Church started to cave, i.e. give an inch, in small areas. It opened the doors to relativism.
 
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I can without a doubt say that without CM or similar outfits, I would not know about half the issues I do know about.
This is what bothers me about Michael Voris. Scandal is bad, but spreading it may or may not be a good thing. The Church teaches that calumny and gossips are sins for a reason. If someone’s business model is built around sensationalism and making people lose faith in the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church, it may not be schismatic, but it doesn’t sound too healthy.
That isn’t their business model.
It is a good reminder that the Church is made of man. And man will always let us down. It isn’t losing faith in the Church…it is losing faith in man. Calling out heresay…especially when it comes at the top, is always good
 
Understand what you are dealing with.
It is the agent of reported stories that is most objectionable.( Because there is bound to be a negative story here and there in real life. ).
Now we know Fox selects a different roster of news than MSNBC.
Here, a source that claims Catholic runs a relentless anti Papal roster of stories.
 
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