Is Darwin's Theory Of Evolution True? Part Two

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It’s all coming together now. I mean, if everything else had to wait millions of years…
 
vz71 said:
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rossum:
One day a spider knew how to make a slightly better web than her fellow spiders. Because her web was slightly better she caught slightly more flies and so laid slightly more eggs than her fellow spiders which hatched into slightly more offspring than her fellow spiders.
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And we know this how?
Other then just making it up.
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It is the most reasonable explanation.
 
The Bronze-age accounts thing again? Even if God is not real to some, on a Catholic forum, we Catholics are taught that God did literally intervene in a few important points in human history. We believe the Bible was not just written by men but by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. That said, we are told that Adam and Eve were two literal individuals and this is the part where we leave science: they were given preternatural gifts, including immortality. They committed Original Sin which we all have from generation from Adam. They lost their gifts. Then, Jesus Christ, true God and true man, was born to die as a sacrifice and be the Redeemer of all. Off topic, I know, but this intersection between what man can know and what God told us, go together.

I’ve seen some posts over the years that clearly desire some sort of “peaceful” compromise. That the Church lean toward or allow for some type of evolution, as in the Biology textbook. I doubt that is going to happen. However, I’ve also seen other posts over the years that bluntly state “What did those primitive sheep herders know 2,000 years ago? Wake up. Science has a solution, answer, a fact, etc.”

Then, based on the sheer number of posts covering years, I consider that evidence that the goal is atheism, via science, so as to discard God altogether. Otherwise, I’d prefer lengthy posts about the development of aircraft from the beginning, including the X-planes, and Dark Matter, or anything that has solid, testable evidence behind it.
 
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vz71 said:
And we know this how?

Other then just making it up.
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How? Science research, that’s how. Your personal incredulity is not science.

If a spider catches more flies because her web is slightly better than that will be an advantage. Do you agree?

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Techno2000:
Did one day a spider know how to make a web, while his fellow spiders didn’t ?
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One day a spider knew how to make a slightly better web than her fellow spiders. Because her web was slightly better she caught slightly more flies and so laid slightly more eggs than her fellow spiders which hatched into slightly more offspring than her fellow spiders.

Compound interest tells you the rest of the story, just set it up on a spreadsheet.

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But the spiders that couldn’t make a web are still surviving and reproducing.
 
You never know, If all it takes is a random mutation, and with all the new technology and assortment of toxic substances, we could get: (Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.)
And he’d be pretty fit! I saw the movie.
 
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Agreed. According to Rossum’s theory, the okapi should have died out.
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Wrong. The okapi simply found a different ecological niche from the giraffe. For the niche that it occupies, it is well-suited.
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As was the short-neck “giraffe”; so where’s the environmental pressure that constituted natural selection and produced the giraffe we know today. Your’s is a story about realities which are so, so much better explained by any version of creation.
 
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Agreed. According to Rossum’s theory, the okapi should have died out.
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Wrong. The okapi simply found a different ecological niche from the giraffe. For the niche that it occupies, it is well-suited.
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As was the short-neck “giraffe”;
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You are trying to imagine a problem where there is no problem. As I said, different creatures find themselves in different ecological niches, so they evolve differently.
 
Techno2000 said:
But the spiders that couldn’t make a web are still surviving and reproducing.
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Because they do not use a web to catch their food. Tigers do not use a web to catch their food either. There are a great many ecological niches, and only a few of them require a web or its equivalent.

rossum
 
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That’s nonsense. Spider-web evolution? Not credible.
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The shape of a spider’s web is set by their DNA, so it can evolve in the usual way. Do you think that a spider has the intellectual capacity to design a web from scratch? The web-building sequence is pre-programmed, and changes to the program will change the shape of the web.

rossum
 
rossum said:
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But the spiders that couldn’t make a web are still surviving and reproducing.
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Because they do not use a web to catch their food. Tigers do not use a web to catch their food either. There are a great many ecological niches, and only a few of them require a web or its equivalent.

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I’m only talking about the spiders that makes a web.
 
rossum said:
Because they do not use a web to catch their food. Tigers do not use a web to catch their food either. There are a great many ecological niches, and only a few of them require a web or its equivalent.
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Naaah, that’s just not credible Rossum. Sounds like an evo-myth. Story-telling. Eventually, the magisterium is going to declare that inconsistent with the faith. Why don’t you just admit that spiders who make no web were created by God with no appetite.
 
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