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So you are saying that anything that was taken out the gene pool, helped to direct and guide random mutations?Because those that can’t are taken out of the gene pool.
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So you are saying that anything that was taken out the gene pool, helped to direct and guide random mutations?Because those that can’t are taken out of the gene pool.
It’s not a good thing or a bad thing. Well, unless you are one of the chooks that can’t reach the low branches and get eaten. So let’s not confuse things. Let’s just concentrate on these chickens and these dogs.Bradskii:![]()
Why is that such a good thing, there are all kinds of birds that live and make their nest on the ground right now.Because those that can’t are taken out of the gene pool.
Animals get taken out of the gene pool because they aren’t as good as surviving the environment as those that do. Leaving, obviously, the ones that are.Bradskii:![]()
So you are saying that anything that was taken out the gene pool, helped to direct and guide random mutations?Because those that can’t are taken out of the gene pool.
About as far you can go with this is…Selective Breeding. You can only extrapolate and speculate if this might cause random mutations to create whole new species of animals.Techno2000:![]()
It’s not a good thing or a bad thing. Well, unless you are one of the chooks that can’t reach the low branches and get eaten. So let’s not confuse things. Let’s just concentrate on these chickens and these dogs.Bradskii:![]()
Why is that such a good thing, there are all kinds of birds that live and make their nest on the ground right now.Because those that can’t are taken out of the gene pool.
We have a situation that results in an arms race between predator and its prey. Chooks that can get higher up the tree live longer and therefore breed chooks that are better at doing that. Dogs that can climb better get to live longer and therefore breed dogs that are better at doing that.
So if the situation, the environment, stays the same, what do you think might happen?
How do you know this , can you give an example of such animals ?Animals get taken out of the gene pool because they aren’t as good as surviving the environment as those that do.
This isn’t selective breeding. No-one is making any conscious decisions to try to reach a particular result. This is all happening naturally. The random mutations don’t in themselves create new species. They are possibly a disadvantage in which case the organism loses out and is removed from the gene pool or it advantageous and the organism remains in the pool and produces offspring that have that genetic advantage.Bradskii:![]()
About as far you can go with this is…Selective Breeding. You can only extrapolate and speculate if this might cause random mutations to create whole new species of animals.Techno2000:![]()
It’s not a good thing or a bad thing. Well, unless you are one of the chooks that can’t reach the low branches and get eaten. So let’s not confuse things. Let’s just concentrate on these chickens and these dogs.Bradskii:![]()
Why is that such a good thing, there are all kinds of birds that live and make their nest on the ground right now.Because those that can’t are taken out of the gene pool.
We have a situation that results in an arms race between predator and its prey. Chooks that can get higher up the tree live longer and therefore breed chooks that are better at doing that. Dogs that can climb better get to live longer and therefore breed dogs that are better at doing that.
So if the situation, the environment, stays the same, what do you think might happen?
If a random mutation means that you can’t run or climb or see or swim or fly or hear as well as other members of your species, then there is a small yet significantly important chance that those without that mutation will survive longer that you will and that mutation will be bred out.Bradskii:![]()
How do you know this , can you give an example of such animals ?Animals get taken out of the gene pool because they aren’t as good as surviving the environment as those that do.
How good at survival a animal would be if it has to go from one species to another. It’s half one thing and half another. It doesn’t know if it’s coming or going.What kind of food it’s going to eat.What kind defences it’s going to have,what kind of new place it has to live.Where is a mate that is in the same stage of development as it is in for reproduction …on and on…Animals get taken out of the gene pool because they aren’t as good as surviving the environment as those that do.
How do you know if this has ever happen ?If a random mutation means that you can’t run or climb or see or swim or fly or hear as well as other members of your species, then there is a small yet significantly important chance that those without that mutation will survive longer that you will and that mutation will be bred out.
Elephants bred in captivity would not be affected by this.Speciation doesn’t happen overnight. But changes within a species can be quite dramatic. As per the elephants.
How do you apply this to a monkey changing into a man, a rodent changing into a whale, and dinosaur changing into a chicken ?Animals get taken out of the gene pool because they aren’t as good as surviving the environment as those that do.
Slow down. We’re not talking about speciation. And an organism is never half of one thing and half another. It is all what it is at any given moment and at that moment it will remain exactly as it is unless there are changes in the environment or a random mutation that will decrease its chances of surviving long enough to pass on its genes.Bradskii:![]()
How good at survival a animal would be if it has to go from one species to another. It’s half one thing and half another. It doesn’t know if it’s coming or going.What kind of food it’s going to eat.What kind defences it’s going to have,what kind of new place it has to live.Where is a mate that is in the same stage of development as it is in for reproduction …on and on…Animals get taken out of the gene pool because they aren’t as good as surviving the environment as those that do.
This is common sense. If you and a group of friends are in the woods and are attacked by a bear, you don’t have to run faster than the bear to survive. You just need to run faster than the slowest runner or climb a tree better than the worst climber. The bear will eat the guy that doesn’t have the benefit of your running or climbing genes.Bradskii:![]()
How do you know if this has ever happen ?If a random mutation means that you can’t run or climb or see or swim or fly or hear as well as other members of your species, then there is a small yet significantly important chance that those without that mutation will survive longer that you will and that mutation will be bred out.
Nor do humans. Two humans can produce a physical body, but they cannot produce a human soul. AIUI God directly produces the soul for each and every human alive, not that person’s parents.Animals do not produce human babies.
Dodos. Mammoths. Passenger pigeons.How do you know this , can you give an example of such animals ?
What do you make of peacocks? Are they freaks of nature or expressions of beauty?It’s the most efficient way to stay alive. That’s the way nature works.
How do you know it was because they weren’t good at survival ?Techno2000:![]()
Dodos. Mammoths. Passenger pigeons.How do you know this , can you give an example of such animals ?
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So these were just flawed creatures that random mutations produced for trial and error purposes ?Techno2000:![]()
Dodos. Mammoths. Passenger pigeons.How do you know this , can you give an example of such animals ?
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