Really? And who does that do you think?
Has it never occured to you that the Church can err in this sphere?
Do mirrors show your reflection?
No, but it DID occur to me that YOU can err.http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon10.gif
Calm down Vern, you’re starting to rave. In today’s world we do *not *have Christians or Jews flying aircraft into skyscrapers. We do *not *have Christian clerics preaching death to the infidel from the pulpit. Hence, you are obligated to prove your claims before you go about attempting to disprove ours.
To name just one example, in 1915-1917, the Islamic Turks killed an estimated 1.8 million Armenian Christians. This does not match the numbers killed by the Nazis during the Second World War of course, but it was only one of a long and ongoing series of horrors.
Do they show yours?
Obviously. We’re all fallible men. But by extension you are just as likely to be in error as I am.
Take a deep breath and try to follow. Just as the Holocaust must be laid at the door of those who committed it (many of whom were Lutherans, Orthodox and Catholics) and not at the door of Christianity, so must the deeds of 9/11 be laid at the door of those who perpetrated that crime – and not charged against all their co-religionists.
The difference being I’m not the one running around with his hair on fire, trying to convince other people that a whole religion or ethnic group is somehow fundamentally evil, and then demanding someone else prove me wrong.
You’re problem is first, that you have only brought up a single example thus far, the Holocaust (though admittedly a very big one), while there are hundreds if not thousands of incidents of Islamic violence in the 20th century alone.
You must have a reading problem. In all your vast research, you never ran across things like anti-Jewish riots, pogroms and so on in Christian countries? You never learned that the Jews were expelled from Christian countries like Spain and England?
Vern Humphrey:
Yep, you’ve got a reading problem.http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon12.gif
And a spelling problem too.
So you’re saying a long history of persecution of the Jews is NOT connected with the Holocaust? And that professing Lutherans, Catholics and Orthodox did NOT serve as SS members and auxiliary guards?
Better than having no conception of history at all .
Given both your wierd, hate-filled version, and the obvious gaps in your historical knowledge, I consider THAT a complement.
Gee, Thanks.
What other word is there for people who condemn a whole religion, demand other prove them wrong, and present a twisted version of history to support their hatred?Gee, Thanks.
Btw, Why do you use “bigot” so much? Do you like the sound?
Hospitaller suggested you read the *Endless Jihad *article on the mainsite. Since you don’t appear to have been able to find your way over there yet, here it is to spare you the trouble.
As I said, a one-trick pony. There’s a lot more to history than an article posted on the web.
Indeed. a lot more.
And if you don’t like the facts, perhaps you should join a different species. http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon12.gif
Ah yes, insults. The coward’s substitute for actual thought.
Ah yes, insulting a whole people and their religion. The coward’s substitute for actual thought.
And now you can’t even be bothered to think up your own posts! Boy, you’re just going from bad to worse, aren’t you?
And now you can’t even be recognize it when someone holds up a mirror! Boy, you’re just going from bad to worse, aren’t you?And now you can’t even be bothered to think up your own posts! Boy, you’re just going from bad to worse, aren’t you?
Vern, neither myself or the Black Knight have expressed hatred towards anyone. We have expressed a legitimate concern that Islam as a cultural force is inherently violent from its doctrine to its practice. We have presented articles and links to support our side of the debate.
