Is it immoral to take gov't unemployment money we didn't pay for?

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If this is really true, then it seems very strange.

But, I think it is a good idea to let the other side try to make their case, clarify things, etc. This way we can avoid rash judgements.

But if this truly is the only reason or the main reason, then that would be very sad and strange.
 
It is legal. Not immoral at all to accept help. Heck, many people call for Universal Basic Income, and this is what it could look like.

Anyway Uncle Sam will find a way to get it back someday, and they will likely tax you on the income.
 
Really, there is no one good standard by which things are called racist, these days. If someone screams RACIST! at something loud enough, that thing will become racist.
 
It’s a form of political control. Some would even call it an Alinsky tactic.

Have a political opponent you don’t like and want them to shut up? Call them racist. If they try to defend themselves it just proves how racist they really are. It shuts down all conversation out of fear of that term being applied to said person(s). Nowadays it is so overused it lost all its meaning.
 
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It’s problematic because some racist people are blaming China for the disease, as well asChinese-Americans or anyine who is Asian. They are yelled at, one guy reported being spit on, and blamed for spreading the virus.
 
I know the MSM claims this but it sounds like a total hoax to me. Is there any evidence of this happening at all?

Even if true, should we really be so worried about people who are so dumb as to feel angry at Asians because of this virus?
 
Wherever it appears, swap the word “racist” for “enemy of the people”, “class enemy”, or “counter-revolutionary”.

Similarly, swap the terms “white privilege” and “underrepresented minority” for “bourgeoise” and “worker” or “proletariat”.

Close your eyes and you will be confused about whether you are in mid-20th century USSR or 21st century America.

This is nothing but Marxism with some terms swapped around.
 
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It’s problematic because some racist people are blaming China for the disease, as well asChinese-Americans or anyine who is Asian. They are yelled at, one guy reported being spit on, and blamed for spreading the virus.
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Agreed. This is just feuling xenophobia at a time the world needs to come together. Yes, China made some big mistakes here, but it just isn’t necessary to call it Chinese virus. Doing so almost seems like people are going out of their way to do so to prove a point since Trump used it. Who cares if previous viruses were named due to country of origin? We are in 2020. Intentionally racist or not it just seems people are trying to make a statement by embracing this term and then being irritated by being called out on it.
 
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Alyosha1984 said:
I know the MSM claims this but it sounds like a total hoax to me. Is there any evidence of this happening at all?

Even if true, should we really be so worried about people who are so dumb as to feel angry at Asians because of this virus?
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This type of thing is happening. I work at a Brooklyn library and there have been incidents. No hoax required. Is it that far fetched to think people are capable of this type behavior?
 
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Why are people against calling it the Chinese virus? Can someone explain? Seems a statement of fact, no?
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No, the actual designation of the virus is COVID-19.
 
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Intentionally racist or not it just seems people are trying to make a statement by embracing this term and then being irritated by being called out on it.
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I think people are mostly embracing the term as a statement against China as the nation or the political regime there. The Chinese American I have seen being attacked on FaceBook for saying “Chinese virus” was criticizing the Chinese Communist Party and them trying to attribute the disease to the US. Nothing to do with Chinese people as a whole.
 
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I think people are mostly embracing the term as a statement against China as the nation or the political regime there. The Chinese American I have seen being attacked on FaceBook for saying “Chinese virus” was criticizing the Chinese Communist Party and them trying to attribute the disease to the US. Nothing to do with Chinese people as a whole.
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I’m referring to non-Asians using this term.
 
Not at all. Neither is it far-fetched to think that people in the media are exaggerating the prevalence of these incidents in order to criticize Trump and demonize his supporters for political points.

I personally don’t find the attacks on the president that troubling (par for the course) but do find the demonization of his supporters deeply troubling. I have ultra progressive relatives who told me that the California border should be closed to “keep out Trump supporters.” Do you think the media would call that discriminatory? Not a chance…
 
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I personally don’t find the attacks on the president that troubling (par for the course) but do find the demonization of his supporters deeply troubling. I have ultra progressive relatives who told me that the California border should be closed to “keep out Trump supporters.” Do you think the media would call that discriminatory? Not a chance…
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Depends on what media you consume. I do agree though that this behavior is discriminatory. Progressives can be hateful. I’m neither left nor right because they are all crazy at either end, in my opinion. But that’s a whole other topic.
 
Sorry but from how it sounds there seems to be a little pride at play here. Also Yoga is apparently not Catholic so I’d be more concerned about taking money from a practice that will (unlike recieving unemployment benefit) may actually lead others down a sinful path away from Jesus and ultimately lead them away from Salvation.

Drop your Ego and accept the help that is there for you, many people in other countrys’ are not so fortunate to have a welfare system. I have been unemployed a long time due to illness though I’m still applying for work as I want to be independent. It’s been very difficult to find anywhere that will accept my applications for work especially since I’ve been unemployed longer than 6 months. You have been one of the lucky ones, but now you need help so accept it and stop being , what seems, a snob and proud about it .

No offence but in my country many people also refer to receiving benefit as a “Handout” and those receiving them as doing a shameful thing, which it’s not, I have worked and paid my taxes before, I cared for disabled parents saving the government a fortune in medical costs, so I accept the bare minimum I get from benefits or else I’d starve and be homeless and not here writing this. I still do charitable deeds and give what I can reasonably spare to Church and I don’t see it as a struggle. O am neither ashamed or proud but grateful that people pay their taxes who do work to keep me alive, and I’d be happy to have the chance to do the same should the tables turn. When I become employed again I will pay my taxes and my wages and be able to give more back than I have taken.

This is not intended as an insult, and I mean no offence it’s just a reality check and as you said yourself these are exceptional and uncertain times. If you struggle to feed yourself and your close ones, then accept what you are entitled to and try to humble yourself towards those who genuinely have no choice but to survive on benefits, and the unemployed.

God bless you and your family
 
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Why shouldn’t non-Asians be using the term? Are only Asians allowed to callout China?
 
I am pretty sure Trump supporters would love the California border closed to keep Californians from moving to their states.
 
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