Is it ok to listen to Dr Taylor Marshall?

[commenter]

In the book “Infiltration” one of the themes is that heretical ministries affiliated with the Church can do more harm than those independent.

But if that is true, then Marshall’ s ministry - independent - really can help the Church less than those orthodox ministries affiliated.

 

[JimmyDFG]

As I said before, Dr. Marshall actually quit a job at a catholic college because the president says bad things about the Novus Ordo (and that was long after he was attending the latin mass).

And now Mr. Marshall is heading down this road as well.

His major issue is the crisis in the Church right now (around McCarrick)

Who and/or what is to blame for this?

So now, he encourages the Latin Mass. HOWEVER, he does NOT claim the OF is invalid, wrong, etc. Again, he attended on a few weeks ago. But, it’s true that he doesn’t like attending it, and would perfer attending the Latin Mass.

NOTE: The preference is NOT something that people should be attacked for. There are many people who say they cannot stand the Latin Mass, find it cold, etc. Some prefer the Novus Ordo and others prefer the TLM. That’s fine and it’s OK for people to express their preference too.

I never mentioned that he said the Novus Ordo Mass was invalid. He knows better not to. He has too much at stake.
I don’t have the slightest objection to anyone preferring to attend the Tridentine Mass or the Novus Ordo Mass. Its one thing to have a preference and something totally different saying that the Novus Ordo has been a liturgical failure. That is NOT merely voicing a “preference”.
Mr. Marshall knows that Catholicism is one that’s in full communion with the pope but yet says Catholicism seems to be bifurcating into two religions.

 

[Donkey]

Mr. Marshall knows that Catholicism is one that’s in full communion with the pope but yet says Catholicism seems to be bifurcating into two religions.

Evidenced when one Catholic priest preaches about the miracle of the loaves and fishes and another Catholic priest preaches about the inspired goodwill of the crowd.

It is undeniably happening…division as marked as our political scene.

 

[Donkey]

Where I used to live, I had a friend who was great for that. You could practically just tell him the publication date and publisher and he could tell you how good (or bad) the book would be.

I managed to toss one book by Fr. So and So. His close association with another was a dead give away. Avoiding giving names publicly…not nice. I see how this works. I just need to do a little research per author.

 

[Lormar]

I watched him once and was turned off to him. He says nothing new (to me at least, I’m an old lady)

 

[MagdalenaRita]

I watched him once and was turned off to him.

A lot of his videos are very good. His podcasts or videos on the faith are very good to listen to. I do get tired of the crisis videos from everyone. A body can only take so much of that. I wish he would focus back on the faith more.

 

[commenter]

I do get tired of the crisis videos. A body can only take so much of that. I wish he would focus back on the faith more.

Within the “tradisphere” if it bleeds it leads. If 1p5 is rejoicing in some imminent scandal involving a bishop, Lepanto must find current dirt on a cardinal, or they get Left behind on donations, internet hits, and getting cited in other internet places, including CAF.

This is true also in Secular media. They are always hyping breaking news. It’s also true of National Catholic Reporter, etc. As time passes, the Catholic Right and Left are blending into the Secular media. Don’t touch that dial.

 

[MagdalenaRita]

Within the “tradisphere”

This is true also in Secular media.

Hmm, are you saying that those other Catholics who are not in the “tradisphere” do not look for the newsworthy, or “if it bleeds it leads”? Because if that is so, then there are a lot of Catholic news websites and blogs that must be in the “tradisphere”.

 

[commenter]

Hmm, are you saying that those other Catholics who are not in the “tradisphere” do not look for the newsworthy, or “if it bleeds it leads”? Because if that is so, then there are a lot of Catholic news websites and blogs that must be in the “tradisphere”.

Forgive my neologism, I didn’t mean to offend anyone. I wasn’t referring so much to persons who are conservative, as I am, but to the internet agencies independent of the Church; right and left.
In my diocese the daily paper, etc, constantly has articles about every jot and tittle of scandal they can find, some times trashing persons almost certainly innocent. (I am retired sex abuse investigator).

Every time it especially “bleeds” locally, cm, Lepanto, Dreher, etc duplicate whatever the secular media are hyping.

It would be newsworthy to print articles about implementable evangelism or prolife practical suggestions. But the secular media does not print this news, and neither do the trads, or libs.
“Boring”!

 

[JimmyDFG]

National Catholic Reporter such an unpleasant site

 

[Welshrabbit]

I like the Catholic News Agency.

 

[commenter]

National Catholic Reporter such an unpleasant site

For me, it (NCR) is like biting into the most distasteful food I can think of. Reading Taylor Marshall is like a fudge sundae. But is that really good for me, either? Maybe once in great while, but don’t, don’t, count this as nutrition.

I just read Infiltration. It’s 300 pages of thrills and chills, with practical application of zero.

He makes the reader kind of a “fly on the wall”, to the lurid, treacherous, evil in Catholic high places, which is the only place novels like this love to look for evil. But how useful is a fly?

So I strictly limit my fudge sundaes. For my actual spiritual nutrition, I stick with the Church.

 

[UltimateChikorita]

no, clickbait about the pope doesn’t help anyone

 

[Donkey]

His last video has some interesting stuff.
Without going back and listening again, what % of interest per diocese goes to USCCB?

 

[JimmyDFG]

The sad thing is, a lot of people use the National “catholic” reporter to voice their desire on what the Church should be teaching.

I haven’t read Taylor’s Infiltration nor do I plan to. What I’ve heard of his book is that it’s a lot of speculation and I feel that causes division. I like to and mostly read books on Catholic theology but now I’m reading Anti-Mary Exposed by Carrie Gress and Counterfeit Christs by Trent Horn

 

[Joe_5859]

I like the Catholic News Agency.

I’ve found myself liking them more and more. Their editor has background in theology and canon law, worked for Chaput in Denver, and has adopted special needs kids. I feel like his background just lends itself to more reasonableness than you find in many other media outlets.

 

[Welshrabbit]

I’m with you. I’ve found he and the other canon lawyer on the podcast to be quite reasonable and level-headed. I know I’ve mentioned the podcast on here before, I promise I don’t work for CNA!

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/podcast/cna-newsroom

 

[JimmyDFG]

Watched Taylor Marshall’s video “Why is Bp Barron Unhappy w Traditional Catholics? Dr Taylor Marshall and Timothy Flanders” he blames the liturgy (which seems to point towards the Novus Ordo Mass) for turning people into a modernist, turns you into someone who doesn’t believe in the Eucharist, and its the reason why people are not baptising their children. Mr. Marshall might have honest disagreements with Bishop Barron but there’s no need to disparage others to make his point

 

[commenter]

Watched Taylor Marshall’s video "Why is Bp Barron Unhappy w Traditional Catholics?

From “Pascendi”, Pius X:

“Let there be, as far as this is possible, a special Censor for newspapers and periodicals written by Catholics. It shall be his office to read in due time each number after it has been published, and if he find anything dangerous in it let him order that it be corrected. The Bishop shall have the same right even when the Censor has seen nothing objectionable in a publication."

By the standard of Pius X, Dr. Marshall’s ministry is not “traditional
Catholic”, nor because he disagrees with Bishop Barron, but not in union with his own Ordinary.

(You can be sure many websites that quote Pascendi somehow omit section 52, and others).

 

[MagdalenaRita]

That would certainly be a task to have the bishop read and censor all Catholic blogs, videos, websites, etc…

I think one priest (I think Fr. Rosica) tried to make a list of what he thought were good websites for Catholics. They were all leftist. One was National Catholic Reporter and if I remember right EWTN didn’t even make the list.