Is it okay for Catholics to own firearms so they can protect themselves and their loved ones?

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It’s 21 in CA right now. Too young, in my opinion.
CCW should definitely be, like, 50. Easy for me to say!:grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
 
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The US Government would have a real problem disarming its citizens, since they would have to rely on the police to do so, and the overwhelming majority of us (police) oppose “gun control” in the sense that the left thinks of the term. You would be happy to know that most of us also refuse to enforce those gun laws which serve no purpose other than to make criminals out of otherwise law-abiding citizens.
 
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Just how do you propose to evacuate your entire family with guns pointed at you? Hiding in the corners doesn’t always work either.

Think of it this way: if someone invades your home with guns and you’re not armed, you are effectively dead and it will only be by a miracle of God that you live through the experience.
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Well honesty if guns are pointed at us we are dead arent we. One gun won’t protect you from multiple guns.
I don’t think many people are skilled enough to kill invaders in the dark, when you have just awoken. Especially throw in confusion and stress.

But lets be real. How often to armed invaders come in wanting to kill us? They want to steal. They don’t generally walk around hoping to murder you. Unless I am missing something the murder rate of randoms in their home is not particularly high.

There is a greater chance you kid will kill himself
Accidentally or on purpose.
 
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If owning a gun for self protection was against the Faith, Jesus would not have allowed Peter and the other apostles to carry a sword
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Jesus allowed two of his disciples to carry swords. And when Peter used his sword, Jesus said, put away your sword, those who live by the sword die by the sword. Jesus then healed the ear that Peter had cut.
 
Anyone bold enough to break into your home in the middle of your night, when you’re home, should be presumed capable of anything.
 
Like this kid?


It’s certainly best that you remain unarmed, so long as you feel incapable and helpless. That doesn’t mean others have to feel that way.
I was scared when I took my first pistol class five or six years ago. Scared of my own firearm, and it’s destructive power. But I learned, and accepted the responsibility. Same when I got my concealed carry permit. Zero margin for anger, or carelessness.
And I’m still educating myself, and training regularly. That’s part of the responsibility.
As far as firing on “invaders in the dark,” you can practice for that too. Part of tactical training. Sometimes I’ll wear dark glasses at the indoor range. There are plenty of classes in tactical, too.
 
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Again, people owning or carrying a gun for self defense aren’t “living by the sword.”
 
Of course we can where legal. I do. Several priests I know do as well. Cops do. And ordinary Catholics do. I’m curious as to why you would question this?
 
I’ve long thought that most police and military alike would refuse to obey orders to disarm the American people. Thanks for confirming–and for protecting us!
 
So? We can all quote acedotal evidence can’t we?
I can probably find other stories to suggest it is more dangerous in order to suit my own narrative.

Look I am coming at this from an Australian. So my perspective is different. But guns here are unheard of (unless you are a farmer or police). We don’t have mass shootings and our homicide rate is very low. When home invasion happen (and of course they do) we don’t worry about having to shoot the perpetrator. Nor are we particularly worried they will shoot us.

I simply cannot understand the argument to solve the gun problem we need MORE guns.

I understand it is a complex situation. And will take time, education and money to begin to make changes to the gun culture.

I also admit to the irony of it being an Australian who shot up the mosque. The last mass shooting in Austrialia was in 1998. It is massive news here and caused a huge shock to us all.

I still strongly stand by my opinion that strict gun control is a must.
 
Well if I’m not able to own a gun in order to protect myself or my family, then I will just have to move or relocate to another place where crime rates and violence are unlikely to occur.
 
“Unfortunately it happens that the need to render the aggressor incapable of causing harm sometimes involves taking his life. In this case, the fatal outcome is attributable to the aggressor whose action brought it about, even though he may not be morally responsible because of a lack of the use of reason.”

Very well stated, E.L.!
Italics mine.
Can I surmise a background in Thomistic (still #1) moral theology?
 
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You’re welcome to your opinion about how Australia should be. It has no validity for America.
 
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I’d be happy just to find reasonably priced .45 Colt. With the popularity of cowboy action, how come it’s still 60¢ a round? When you can find it at all.
 
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