His arrogance is pretty palpable in the first post. He continually talks about how they failed, and that they are in the "stupid ‘tolerance’ crowd.’Where has the OP stated he knows-it-all? A know-it-all wouldn’t admit he does not know what the beatitudes are called.
I think he could have used better wording, but he does not strike me as someone that arrogant.
Hey you better watch your mouth sir. I called them phony Catholics, which they are and I called the liberal views they follow “stupid” not them personally. Like I said earlier in the thread I have offered to pay them financially, they declined, and I plan on paying them back in full whether they take it or not. I would rather live on the streets then take advantage of someone financially. If I wasn’t living up to my end of a bargain that’s one thing. Put I cannot force them to take my money.Unlike calling your parents “phony” and “stupid,” while taking advantage of them financially?
Well gee, thanks.Also, the tolerance crowd is stupid. The folks who value tolerance the most tend to be too intellectually lazy to have any real convictions.
Look I don’t know your whole life story, but from what you’ve been saying in this thread you clearly have a lot of resentment built up for your parents because they didn’t raise you in the faith? I’m sorry, that sucks, but that’s hardly a reason to vilify them to the degree you’re doing so. Why not sit down and have a conversation with them about this, instead of trying to validate your cynicism on a forum?Hey you better watch your mouth sir. I called them phony Catholics, which they are and I called the liberal views they follow “stupid” not them personally. Like I said earlier in the thread I have offered to pay them financially, they declined, and I plan on paying them back in full whether they take it or not. I would rather live on the streets then take advantage of someone financially. If I wasn’t living up to my end of a bargain that’s one thing. Put I cannot force them to take my money.
I never claimed to know it all. In fact, I have stated the opposite. There are many things regarding the faith that I have been wrong about and have been told and look it up and I apologize for my mistake. What I do know is that my parents broke their vows, kept me from Christ, and refuse to admit they were wrong. Am I bitter and not gracious after talking about it with strangers all morning, yes. I was really just looking for an ear and advice not being reprimanded.Well, in this case, it is indeed the kid who is saying he knows it all. And if a parent suggested ‘ghosting’ a child simply for disagreeing with them, you’d better believe I’d have the same response.
You got your advice. Based on what we know, you’re being completely unreasonable.I was really just looking for an ear and advice not being reprimanded.
The advice I can give you is to let your own heart and mind be guarded in Christ while being merciful and prayerful towards your parents in hope that they too may accept Christ’s invitation to be children of God and servants of Him.I was really just looking for an ear and advice not being reprimanded.
I never said he shouldn’t pray for his parents or cut them off completely. I just empathize with him very much and find people are being too harsh with him. Most are coming from a parent’s perspective and I’m coming from the perspective of someone who has never really had a respectable adult figure in her life growing upThese parents lapsed as Catholics? Wouldn’t they require more prayers and more of a good example?
Advice riddled with insults and attacks on my character. You guys make it out like I am disrespectful at home and a holier than thou type person when that is furthest from the truth. A simple “Hey man maybe that is a bit too far. I feel like that sometimes but in the end I found patience better.” Or something like that. Instead people are making wild assumptions about how I act when I have only talked about bringing up religious conversations which I rarely do to begin with.You got your advice. Based on what we know, you’re being completely unreasonable.
Your parents are as entitled as anyone to have a change of heart and conviction – in the same way you turned toward the Church, they turned away. As a wise priest I know once said, “Most parents don’t wake up in the morning, turn to each other and say, ‘Let’s screw up the kids’ lives today.’”What I do know is that my parents broke their vows, kept me from Christ, and refuse to admit they were wrong. Am I bitter and not gracious after talking about it with strangers all morning, yes. I was really just looking for an ear and advice not being reprimanded.
Well, you and the OP can have lovely conversations about how stupid and intellectually lazy all those tolerant people are. Tolerance isn’t the worst quality for a person to have – and the OP is blessed that his parents appear to be part of that crowd.Also, the tolerance crowd is stupid. The folks who value tolerance the most tend to be too intellectually lazy to have any real convictions.
This tends to happen when you ask for relationship advice on the internet. Sucks, I know. The solution, fortunately, is simple. In this case, it’s sit down and have a conversation with your parents instead of asking strangers how to go about this.Advice riddled with insults and attacks on my character. You guys make it out like I am disrespectful at home and a holier than thou type person when that is furthest from the truth. A simple “Hey man maybe that is a bit too far. I feel like that sometimes but in the end I found patience better.” Or something like that. Instead people are making wild assumptions about how I act when I have only talked about bringing up religious conversations which I rarely do to begin with.
Oh, boy, you won’t have too many friends!It’s not that I only want to be with and interact with inly Catholics, it’s that I want separate myself from people who claim to be Catholic but are no such thing
I’m going to be blunt. This is probably the most judgmental, unloving, un-Christian thing I’ve ever heard in my life. If you want to portray Catholics as egocentric, holier-than-thou jerks who think they are superior to everyone else in the world just because they’re Catholic, go ahead and continue with this attitude. But don’t be surprised or angry when that drives your parents further away from the Church.My parents were born and married Catholic but failed as parents to raise their children in the faith. The aren’t true Catholics but rather phony Christians who believe all religion are equal and all the other mainstream liberal beliefs of the culture (including abortion, contraception, homosexual marriage). They don’t go to mass or worship at all. I am living with them for about another year until I get my degree and then I will be ghosting them. They have no interest in fulfilling their duties as Catholics, so I have no interest in a relationship with them. They would be terrible influences on any children I have as they were a terrible influence on me taking me out of the faith as a child. I can’t help but feel maybe I am bitter and that I am thinking about them in an unjust way but it is how I feel. I guess I’m looking for some thoughts/opinions? I pray for them but I no longer speak about Catholicism with them. They are appalled that I believe Catholicism is the most superior religion or that I call abortion and homosexuality sinful. They fall into the stupid “tolerance” crowd. So talking about the faith is not going to bear any fruit.
I’ve got a hundred mile-long list of ways my parents have wronged me. It’s gotten better, but even now it hasn’t completely stopped. I’m working on forgiveness, but I’m still pretty resentful toward them. I’m also a girl who didn’t exactly have an outstanding adult figure in her life growing up. What I’m seeing in this post isn’t just being angry at one’s parents. It is arrogance and an I’m-better-than-people-who-aren’t-Catholic attitude. He also mentions that he doesn’t want to be friends with people other than his parents who are “phony Catholics.” It’s not just limited to the parents.I never said he shouldn’t pray for his parents or cut them off completely. I just empathize with him very much and find people are being too harsh with him. Most are coming from a parent’s perspective and I’m coming from the perspective of someone who has never really had a respectable adult figure in her life growing up
I agree. Once again, though, I don’t think that’s the case in this situation.A lot of parents themselves could use some more humility. Why is it always the kids that get called know-it-alls?