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placido
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If Jesus is not God then He is a pretender. He said, “I and the Father are One.” (John 10:30).
Q: “One” what?
A: One God of course !!!
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Q: “One” what?
A: One God of course !!!
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Dave_H_1
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I would like to address this particular issue, if I may interject as this is, as I understand it, what you believe about Jesus.
If Jesus is the image of God, then He is simply a man. There is no other definition for the phrase.
Genesis 1:26: Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.”
However, you have made it clear you do not believe He is** simply a man.**
You have admitted that in the context of John 1:1, He is more than a man, the Word, whatever that means.
My question to you would be this: What is He then? For there are God, angels, and men. Men cannot manifest themselves in the spiritual realm, just as angels cannot wholly and permanently manifest themselves in the physical realm.
One other point:
If He is the image of God, he is created. God had to exist for his image to be made after him. If he is a created being as you therefore claim, how could he have been with God before time began, as stated in John 1:1?
When you consider these two arguments, the answer seems clear: He is not created, if you believe in the authority and inspiration and infallibility of the Bible, for the timeline is off. Think and pray about your ideas I beg you. Good luck in your search for truth, both to you, and to all of us.
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AidanM32
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If Jesus is God! who is God and if God is Jesus!, who is Jesus?? 
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Martin_R
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God knows all things. (1 John 3:20)
But Jesus had things to learn:
Hbr 5:8 Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered.
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“The things which must soon take place” were revealed by God to Jesus (Rev 1:1)
Surely if Jesus was God, he would not need anything revealed to Him, being all knowing already.
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Mar 13:32 “But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.” NASB
So only the Father part of God is all knowing?
But Jesus had things to learn:
Hbr 5:8 Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered.
NASB
and
“The things which must soon take place” were revealed by God to Jesus (Rev 1:1)
Surely if Jesus was God, he would not need anything revealed to Him, being all knowing already.
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Mar 13:32 “But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.” NASB
So only the Father part of God is all knowing?
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Cides28
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You are missing the point of why he had became obediant and humble - Letter in Philippeans explained it so perfectly, though he was in the form of GOD did not count himself equal but EMPTIED HIMSELF BECOMING A MAN. If he had come down as who he is in just his divinity it would not have had such an impact or better yet it would not have showed us how he connected to us but now he has paved the way a human should live. HUMBLE OBEDIANT, THOUGH SUFFER STILL SEEK TO DO THE WILL OF GOD, FORGIVING, NOT WORRING ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS “SUCH AS END OF TIME” BUT DOING THE WILL OF THE LORD. HOW TO OVERCOME TEMPTATION AND SIN (THOUGH HE WAS SINLESS). LOVING ALL EVEN ENEMIES.
ISAIAH 35:4-6"courage, and fear not:behold your God will bring the revenge of recompense: God himself will come and will save you. [5] then shall the eyes of the blind be opended, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. [6] lame leap, dumb speak"
this prophesy was fullfilled in Jesus “Emmanuel” With us is GOD and Jesus did all that is in this passage, he is GOD coming down and saving us!
Jesus is like the early church has always held, TRUE GOD AND TRUE MAN. yes some passage like you put show his humanity not contradicting his divinity because there are passage then that shows his dinivity 'THOMAS EXCLAIMED “MY LORD AND MY GOD” thomas called him both Lord and GOD.
hope this helps.
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Cides28
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if you read in context Colossians 1:17 FOR IN HIM WERE ALL THINGS CREATED IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH, VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE; ALL THINGS WERE CREATED BY HIM AND IN HIM [17] AND HE IS BEFORE ALL, AND BY HIM ALL THINGS CONSIST.
so where it states the “begining of God’s creation” it is not to be thought of the way we see it as in English which is what the JW wants to see it to disprove Jesus Divinity that he is GOD (not the Father but the Son, yet one nature GOD)
IN THE NWT this contradicts the JW theology so the word in brackets [other] was added a few times [other] hey that’s adding to the bible to fit theology that is not there, that is wrong.
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MrZetterlund
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John 1:1 Jesus was the Word, and the Word was God.
Isaiah 9:6 He is called Mighty God, Everlasting Father.
Isaiah 9:6 He is called Mighty God, Everlasting Father.
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Black_Angel_1
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To believe Jesus to be God is to be Christian. To not worship Jesus and deny his divinity is a sin. Its a strong belief in Christianity to believe Jesus to be God and it is sinning not to worship Jesus. In the other monotheistic religions (Islam and Judaism) it is the opposite however.
If you are Islamic then seeing Jesus as God and worshiping him is a sin. Because worshiping anyone other then God himself is a sin. Basically Idolatry equals sin. God is the only one worthy of worship. In Islamic views, Jesus is a man, they see it as Jesus never said he was God, he merely said he was a Messenger of God, a Prophet if you will.
Not sure about Jews, but they do not worship Jesus as they do not see him as God. Jesus and God being the same is purely in Christian belief, hence the term Christ in Christianity.
If you are Islamic then seeing Jesus as God and worshiping him is a sin. Because worshiping anyone other then God himself is a sin. Basically Idolatry equals sin. God is the only one worthy of worship. In Islamic views, Jesus is a man, they see it as Jesus never said he was God, he merely said he was a Messenger of God, a Prophet if you will.
Not sure about Jews, but they do not worship Jesus as they do not see him as God. Jesus and God being the same is purely in Christian belief, hence the term Christ in Christianity.
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dj_dave
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(Colossians 1:18-20) ...He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that he might become the one who is first in all things; 19*because [God] saw good for all fullness to dwell in him, 20** and through him to reconcile again to himself all [other] things by making peace through the blood [he shed] on the torture stake, no matter whether they are the things upon the earth or the things in the heavens.**
Reconcile the Devil and the Demons “through the blood” to himself too? Or would you not agree that (other) seems to fit in verse 20? ALSO there is “because [God] saw good for all fullness to dwell in him,”
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(Colossians 1:18-20) ...He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that he might become the one who is first in all things; 19*because [God] saw good for all fullness to dwell in him, 20** and through him to reconcile again to himself all [other] things by making peace through the blood [he shed] on the torture stake, no matter whether they are the things upon the earth or the things in the heavens.**
Reconcile the Devil and the Demons “through the blood” to himself too? Or would you not agree that (other) seems to fit in verse 20? ALSO there is “because [God] saw good for all fullness to dwell in him,”
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When_it_comes
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f God is omniscient then he knows how to bring it about that there is neither evil nor suffering.
If God is omnipotent then he is able to bring it about that there is neither evil nor suffering.
If God is benevolent then he wants to bring it about that there is neither evil nor suffering.
But if God knows how to, is able to and wants to bring it about that there is neither evil nor suffering, then why does he not do so?
“God is incomprehensible” you respond.
Theists have often been content to say that we are unable to comprehend God, that his being transcends our mundane experiences and that our concepts, which are derived from such experiences, cannot be used to describe him. If true, then this might be thought to count in favor of agnosticism; if we cannot comprehend God, then how can we reason with any confidence concerning his existence?
Of course, I can’t expect this to make sense to any one here. The only way you could maintain such a blind faith as I see here is if you rejected anything that offended you or challenged your knowledge. At least when I am censored, you must acknowledge the truth of this last paragraph.
If God is omnipotent then he is able to bring it about that there is neither evil nor suffering.
If God is benevolent then he wants to bring it about that there is neither evil nor suffering.
But if God knows how to, is able to and wants to bring it about that there is neither evil nor suffering, then why does he not do so?
“God is incomprehensible” you respond.
Theists have often been content to say that we are unable to comprehend God, that his being transcends our mundane experiences and that our concepts, which are derived from such experiences, cannot be used to describe him. If true, then this might be thought to count in favor of agnosticism; if we cannot comprehend God, then how can we reason with any confidence concerning his existence?
Of course, I can’t expect this to make sense to any one here. The only way you could maintain such a blind faith as I see here is if you rejected anything that offended you or challenged your knowledge. At least when I am censored, you must acknowledge the truth of this last paragraph.
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Martin_R
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That’s not what the dictionary says: chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/features/chref/chref.py/main?query=Christian&title=21st&sourceid=Mozilla-search
That’s not what the Bible says either.
People followed “the Way” e.g. Acts 9:2, Acts 19:9, Acts 24: 22 etc.
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
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Jesus is the Way to God, the Father. (The phrase, "God the son’; is not Biblical).
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Cides28
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You read this as if it was written originally in 21st century English but the word FIRSTBORN in Greek (PROTOTOKOS)can have two meanings either firstborn in chronological birth or one who is PREEMINENT and that is why in verse 18 reads “that in all things he may hold the primacy” (DRB) he is the beginning, the first-born from the dead, that in everything he might be pre-eminent.(RSV)
[OTHER] WAS ADDED IN PREVIOUS VERSE IN THE NWT IN VERSE 16, 17 AND 19 4XS IT HAS [OTHER]. as to show that Jehovah made Michael the arc angel and then michael made all other things BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT THE PASSAGE IS SAYING.
(16) all things were created through him and for him.
[17] He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
[19]For in him all the fulness of God was pleased to dwell,
So ALL things were created through the WORD and FOR the Word for the WORD IS GOD (john 1). all the FULLNESS OF GOD DWELLS IN HIM, so 100% of GOD dwells in the Word in Jesus He is with out GOD that is why he said “THE FATHER IS IN ME AND I AM IN THE FATHER” again the NWT altered that passage and now reads IN [UNION] WITH THE FATHER. (JOHN 14:10) which now shows a different meaning.
But how can all things be created for the WORD if the Word is Michael arc angel but yet in the Old Testament Jehovah said in Isaiah 43:21 these people I formed for MYSELF but yet Col 1:16 says Jesus all things were created through him (Jesus) and for him (Jesus).
So your telling us is this that the Watch Tower teaches? that Michael the arc Angel created all other things for Michael the arc angel? you were created by michael for michael?
again Isaiah 44:[24] Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer,
who formed you from the womb:
"I am the LORD, who made all things,
who stretched out the heavens alone,
who spread out the earth – Who was with me? –
regarding Jesus in Hebrews “But of the Son he says” [10] And, "Thou, Lord, didst found the earth in the beginning,
and the heavens are the work of thy hands
So again is the Watch Tower teaching Jehovah made Michael and Michael made everything else for Michael? Or is the true teaching is GOD made all things for himself?
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Monte1945
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1 John 5:7 (King James Version)
7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
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Cides28
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Exodus 3:14 - God says “I AM who I AM” - John 8:58 - Jesus says “Before Abraham was, I AM” in reference to Himself.
Deut. 4:2; 12:32 - the Lord God commands that we not add or take away from His word - Rev. 22:18-19 - Jesus so commands us not to add or take away from His word.
Deut. 32:39; 1 Sam. 2:6 - the Lord kills and makes alive again and raises up - John 5:21 - the Son raises and gives life.
Deut. 32:39 - neither is there any that can deliver out of God’s hand - John 10:28 - nor shall any pluck out of Jesus’ hand.
Deut. 32:43 - rejoice, ye heavens, with Him, and let all the angels of God worship Him - Heb. 1:6 - the “Him” is Jesus the Son.
2 Sam. 22:3 - God is the horn of salvation - Luke 1:68-69 - Jesus is the horn of salvation.
Psalm 19:7 - the law of the Lord is perfect - Gal. 6:2 - fulfill the law of Christ.
Psalm 24:10 - the Lord is the King of glory - 1 Cor. 2:8 - Jesus is the Lord of glory.
Psalm 45:7 - Therefore God, your God, has anointed you. God calls someone else God. This someone else is His eternally begotten Son - Heb. 1:9 - Therefore God, your God, has anointed you. cf. Heb. 1:8, 10.
Psalm 62:12 - the Lord God renders to each according to his work - Matt. 16:27; Rev. 22:12 - Jesus so renders to each according to his work.
Psalm 71:5 - the Lord God is our hope - 1 Tim. 1:1 - the Lord Jesus Christ who is our hope.
Psalm 89:27 – I will make him the first-born, the highest (“elyon” which refers to God) of the kings of the earth - John 18:36-27 – Jesus is this first-born king.
Psalm 97:9 - the Lord God is above all - John 3:31 - Jesus is above all.
Psalms 110:1 - the Lord (Yahweh) said to my Lord - Jesus = Yhwh - Acts 2:34-36 - God has made Jesus both Lord and Christ.
Psalm 148:1-2 - the angels worship the Lord God - Heb. 1:6 - the angels worship Jesus. Only God is worshiped.
Prov. 3:12 - who the Lord loves He corrects - Rev. 3:19 - who Jesus loves He corrects.
Isaiah 7:14 - a virgin will bear a Son named Emmanuel which means “God is with us” - Matt. 1:23 - this Son is Jesus Christ, God in the flesh.
Isaiah 9:6 - the child to be born shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 25:8 - God swallows up death in victory - 2 Tim. 1:10 - Jesus abolishes death and brings life and immortality.
Isaiah 40:8 - the Word of God shall stand forever - Matt. 24:35 - the Words of Jesus shall not pass away.
Isaiah 42:8 - God gives His glory to no other - John 17:5; Heb. 1:3 - yet Jesus has the same glory as the Father.
Isaiah 43:14 - the Lord God is redeemer - Titus 2:14 - Jesus is the redeemer.
Isaiah 44:6 - the Lord God is the first and the last - Rev. 1:17; 2:8; 22:13 - Jesus is the first and the last.
Isaiah 45:19 - I, the Lord God, did not speak in secret - John 18:20 - Jesus said “I have said nothing secretly.”
Isaiah 45:23 - to God, every knee shall bow and every tongue swear. Phil. 2:10-11 - at Jesus’ name every knee should bow and tongue confess.
Isaiah 48:17 - God is the Holy One - Acts 3:14 - Jesus is the Holy One.
Isaiah 60:19 - God is everlasting light - Revelation 21:23 - Jesus the Lamb is eternal light.
Jer. 17:10 - the Lord searches the hearts and repays us according to our deeds - Rev. 2:23 - Jesus searches the hearts and repays us according to our deeds.
Ezek. 1:26-28; Daniel 7:9 - God’s glorious appearance - Rev. 1:13-16 - Jesus’ glorious appearance.
Ezek. 34:11-31 - God the Father is the shepherd of the flock - John 10:7-29 - Jesus is the shepherd of the flock.
Ezek. 34:16 - God seeks to save that which was lost - Luke 19:10 - Jesus seeks to save that which was lost.
Ezek. 34:17 - God judges between cattle, rams and goats - Matt. 25:32 - Jesus judges and separates the goats from the sheep.
Ezek. 43:2 - God’s voice was like a noise of many waters - Rev. 1:15 - Jesus’ voice was like the sound of many waters.
Dan. 2:47 - the Lord is the God of gods and the Lord of Lords - Rev. 17:14 - Jesus the Lamb is the Lord of Lords.
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dj_dave
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I WILL PICK JUST ONE OF THESE SCRIPURES in context
[SIGN]Deut. 32:39; 1 Sam. 2:6 - the Lord kills and makes alive again and raises up - John 5:21 - the Son raises and gives life. [/SIGN]
“*Just as the Father raises the dead up and makes them alive, so the Son also makes those alive whom he wants to. For the Father judges no one at all, but he has committed all the judging to the Son, in order that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He that does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him. And he has given him authority to do judging, because Son of man he is. Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment. I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative; just as I hear [from the Father], I judge; and the judgment that I render is righteous, because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him that sent me”.”—*John 5:21-23, 27-30.
Instead of me addressing every one of your ‘double’ type scriptures–pick another oine that you really believe shows Jesus is God. But remember:
Jesus was an exact rpresentation of his Father…
HEB 1:3
The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
Original Word: χαρακτήρ
Transliteration: charaktér
Phonetic Spelling: (khar-ak-tare’)
Short Definition: exact likeness
exact representation, exact likeness
From the same as charax; a graver (the tool or the person), i.e. (by implication) engraving ((“character”), the figure stamped, i.e. An exact copy or (figuratively) representation) – express image.
In every situation Jesus reflected perfectly what his Father would do.
Sidepoint regarding: John 1:1
Consider " in the beginning was THE HOTEL and THE HOTEL was with THE CASINO and THE HOTEL was casino"…would you say THE HOTEL was “a” casino or THE CASINO?
[SIGN]Deut. 32:39; 1 Sam. 2:6 - the Lord kills and makes alive again and raises up - John 5:21 - the Son raises and gives life. [/SIGN]
“*Just as the Father raises the dead up and makes them alive, so the Son also makes those alive whom he wants to. For the Father judges no one at all, but he has committed all the judging to the Son, in order that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He that does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him. And he has given him authority to do judging, because Son of man he is. Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment. I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative; just as I hear [from the Father], I judge; and the judgment that I render is righteous, because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him that sent me”.”—*John 5:21-23, 27-30.
Instead of me addressing every one of your ‘double’ type scriptures–pick another oine that you really believe shows Jesus is God. But remember:
Jesus was an exact rpresentation of his Father…
HEB 1:3
The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
Original Word: χαρακτήρ
Transliteration: charaktér
Phonetic Spelling: (khar-ak-tare’)
Short Definition: exact likeness
exact representation, exact likeness
From the same as charax; a graver (the tool or the person), i.e. (by implication) engraving ((“character”), the figure stamped, i.e. An exact copy or (figuratively) representation) – express image.
In every situation Jesus reflected perfectly what his Father would do.
Sidepoint regarding: John 1:1
Consider " in the beginning was THE HOTEL and THE HOTEL was with THE CASINO and THE HOTEL was casino"…would you say THE HOTEL was “a” casino or THE CASINO?
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Cides28
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LOL - i rather say IN THE BEGINING WAS THE WORD THE WORD WAS WITH GOD AND THE WORD WAS GOD.
look early church fathers which you tried to quote but did not quote fully in the pass and i had given the full quote of those fathers which you did not respond to all truly believe Jesus is GOD, not the Father… What did Thomas call him “My Lord and My GOD”
He was in the begining - what begining? begining of creation but yet in Isaiah YWHW said I alone created…
YOu the JW can twist can twist scripture to say what you want to believe but unless Jesus lied about the HOly Spirit guiding to all truth but it is fact early church (who were taught by the apostles and their successors) truly believed Jesus is, was and always will be GOD never Michael the arc angel.
and yes he is the exact representation and does all that his father does why? they are of the same essence and nature, divine GOD - He is above the angels, he is the creator of all and with out him not one thing came into being. the creator is GOD.
why is Jesus calling GOD his Father make him equal to GOD? this is wha the Jews stated? don’t we all called GOD our Father? but why is it different with Jesus? because he is of the same nature and essence as the Father, and waht is that? no angel is and that is GOD not a god.
Look we cannot convince you, ur heart is closed and hard, all we can do is pray. i thought you were going to leave and not talk in this site? Even the devil twisted scripture to fit his desire.
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Cides28
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Matt. 7:21-22; Luke 6:46 - not everyone who says to Jesus, “Lord, Lord.” Jesus calls Himself Lord, which is God.
Matt. 9:2; Mark 2:5; Luke 5:20; 7:48 - Jesus forgives sins. Only God can forgive sins.
Matt. 12:8; Mark 2:28; Luke 6:5 - Jesus says that He is “Lord of the Sabbath.” He is the Lord of God’s law which means He is God.
Matt. 18:20 - Jesus says where two or three are gathered in His name, there He is in the midst of them.
Matt. 21:3; Luke 19:31,34 - Jesus calls himself “Lord.” “The Lord has need of them.”
Matt. 26:64; Mark 14:62; Luke 22:70 - Jesus acknowledges that He is the Son of God.
Matt. 28:20 - Jesus said He is with us always, even unto the end of the world. Only God is omnipresent.
Mark 14:36 - Jesus calls God “Abba,” Aramaic for daddy, which was an absolutely unprecedented address to God and demonstrates Jesus’ unique intimacy with the Father.
Luke 8:39 - Luke reports that Jesus said “tell how much God has done for you.” And the man declared how much Jesus did.
Luke 17:18 - Jesus asks why the other nine lepers did not come back to give praise to Him, God, except the Samaritan leper.
Luke 19:38,40 - Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord. If these were silent, the very stones would cry out.
John 5:18 - Jesus claimed to be God. The Jews knew this because Jesus called God His Father and made Himself equal to God. This is why Jesus was crucified.
John 5:21-22 - Jesus gives life and says that all judgment has been given to Him by the Father.
John 5:23 - Jesus equates Himself with the Father, “whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.”
John 6:38 - Jesus says, “For I have come down from heaven.”
John 8:12 - Jesus says “I am the light of the world.” - 1 John 1:5 - God is light and in him there is no darkness at all.
John 8:19 - Jesus says, “if you knew me, you would know my Father also.”
John 8:23 - Jesus says that He is not of this world. Only God is not of this world.
John 8:58 - Jesus says, “Before Abraham was, I AM.” Exodus 3:14 - “I AM” means “Yahweh,” which means God.
John 10:18 - Jesus says He has the power to lay down His life and take it up again - Gal. 1:1 - God raised Jesus to life.
John 10:30 - Jesus says, “I and the Father are one.” They are equal. The Jews even claimed Jesus made Himself equal to God. Jesus’ statement in John 14:28, “the Father is greater than I,” cannot contradict John 10:30 (the Word of God is never in conflict). Jesus’ statement in John 14:28 simply refers to His human messianic role as servant and slave, which He, and not the Father or the Holy Spirit, undertook in the flesh.
John 10:36 - again, Jesus claims that He is “the Son of God.”
John 10:38; 14:10 - “the Father is in me and I am in the Father” means the Father and Son are equal.
John 12:45 - Jesus says, “He who sees Me sees Him who sent Me.” God the Father is equal to God the Son.
John 13:13 - Jesus says, “You call me Teacher and Lord and you are right for so I AM.”
John 14:6 - Jesus says “I am the way, and the truth and the life.” Only God is the way, the truth and the life.
John 16:15 - Jesus says, “all things that the Father has are Mine.” Jesus has everything God has which makes Him God.
John 16:28 - Jesus says that “He came from the Father and has come into the world.”
John 17:5,24 - Jesus’ desire is for us to behold His glory which He had before the foundation of the world.
John 20:17 - Jesus distinguishes His relationship to the Father from our relationship by saying “My Father and your Father.”
Rev. 1:8 - God says He is the “Alpha and the Omega.” In Rev. 22:13, Jesus also says He is the “Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, the beginning and the end.” The only possible conclusion one can reach is that Jesus is equal to the Lord God.
Rev. 1:17 - Jesus says again, “I am the First and the Last.” This is in reference to the God prophesied by Isaiah in Isaiah 44:6, 41:4, 48:12.
Rev. 1:18 - Jesus, the First and the Last, also says “I died, and behold, I am alive for evermore.” When did God ever die? He only did in the humanity of Jesus Christ our Lord and God.
Rev. 2:8 - Jesus again says, “The words of the First and the Last, who died and came to life.” When did God die and come to life? In our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
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Michael_Vernon
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It is not true that simply any or all discussion is a “good thing.” God said that you will be judged by every word that you say. You need to fear God.
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NotWorthy
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Don’t forget. Out of every heresy, the Church has come to a fuller understanding of Christ! I guess this goes hand in hand with, “God allows evil to occur in order that a greater good can come out of it”.
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