Is the Republican party truly pro-life?

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Is the Republican party truly pro-life?

I don’t consider any party truly this or that, because it’s not a hive mind. There’s individuals for and against, for example, abortion in every party. So, when I vote, it’s based on one’s actions, no matter their party affiliation.
 
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Who cares? That was 50 years ago.
RW was reaffirmed by Casey in 1992 by an all Republican court.
Which was nearly 30 years ago. A little better than 50 years, but still an awfully long time ago. (also, technically not all of them were nominated by Republicans… White was a pre-Roe Democrat appointee, but on the other hand he did vote to strike down Roe v. Wade entirely and was one of the original dissenters)

Though it should be noted Roe was only affirmed in a loose sense in Casey. While it proclaimed the “central holding” of some right to an abortion was correct, it narrowed it noticeably. The original Roe was far more broad in banning abortion regulation.

But again, to get someone on the Supreme Court, they have to pass the Senate. So while Stevens, Kennedy, Souter, and Thomas were nominated by a Republican, they had to pass through a Democratic-controlled Senate (and Thomas only barely made it through).

Kennedy and Souter are the ones that especially concern us. Originally Reagan nominated Bork, but he infamously got “borked” by the Democratic-controlled Senate and thus Reagan nominated Kennedy, who did pass the Senate. Kennedy upheld (but limited) Roe, whereas Bork would’ve been a nearly guaranteed vote to overturn it entirely. If, during Casey, Bork was in Kennedy’s seat, then it would have likely come out the other way. And the blame for the fact Kennedy was there instead goes to the Democrats.

Kennedy is not the only upholder of Roe where you can blame the Democratic-controlled Senate for. The effect of the Democratic Senate on Souter is less obvious, but still there. With the Bork/Kennedy affair recent, and facing another Democratic-controlled Senate, Bush took a gamble by nominating Souter, who had very little of a “paper trail” in deciding controversial issues like abortion. The hope was that without much to object to, Democrats would let him through and then he’d be a conservative judge. It succeeded in getting him on the court, it did not work so well in getting a conservative judge, as shown with him joining Kennedy and O’Connor in upholding (but still limiting) Roe.

Granted, you can’t blame the Democrats for O’Connor, as she was nominated by a Republican president and confirmed by a Republican Senate. Still, if not for the Democrats, we would’ve seen other people in place of Kennedy and Souter, who would have been a whole lot more likely to overturn Roe entirely–and remember, only 1 more vote was necessary in Casey to do that.

If you look at the history leading up to Casey, it’s pretty obvious that it was the Republicans (at least starting with Reagan) were taking steps to overturn Roe, but they were thwarted in their attempts by the Democrats. But even then, they still succeeded in limiting it.

This page also has some good information on this:
https://www.jamesjheaney.com/2020/10/20/do-democratic-presidencies-reduce-abortions/
 
Most legislative attempts to restrict abortion have taken place at the state level, and it is always Democratic legislators working to oppose any restrictions at all.
Actually, that is where the issue belongs–at the state level. Roe made it into a federal issue.
It was Harry Blackmun’s fervent wish.
 
Being appointed to the Court by one party or the other does not mean that the justice is a member of that party.
That’s what Chief Justice Roberts tried to say. But it’s all the Democrats fault even though they didn’t appoint a single Justice for 26 years. It’s really no wonder the Evangelicals switched their support from Carter to Reagan.
 
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My opinion only on the OPs question…

I think many Republicans are truly pro life. I also think many are only pro life as to getting elected or re-elected. They would switch their position in a heartbeat if it helped them. Just as I suppose there are some Democrats that are pro life but can’t take that position publicly because they wouldn’t be supporting the Dems platform and many Democrats are very pro choice and won’t change their minds.

And finally, we really can’t read their hearts and have no idea which is what!
 
And finally, we really can’t read their hearts and have no idea which is what!
Unfortunately, what is in their hearts does not really affect us if it is not reflected in their actions. Whatever thoroughly politicians who thoeoughly support legal abortion “have in their hearts” is irrelevant if they vote to keep abortion available whenever for whomever.
 
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Prolife means anti abortion. That’s it. And yes, the Republican party is prolife.
If being pro-life only means being anti-abortion:

Then Josef Stalin was pro-life, because he changed the laws in the Soviet Union in 1936 to greatly restrict abortion. These laws were not repealed until after he died.

Apartheid South Africa was a pro-life country, because they had strict anti-abortion laws.

Communist Romania under Ceacescu was a pro-life country, because they had some of the strictest laws in the world against abortion.

Obviously, it would be insane to think of these evil regimes as pro-life.

Therefore I will say pro-life means a lot more than opposing abortion, although the fight against abortion is a key part. Pro-life means respect for life from conception until natural death, period. No less.
 
I agree. It’s their actions that count. Politicians are not noted for their honesty on what they personally believe. It’s what they want their constituents to think about them. President Trump is a perfect example. I have no clue if he care a bit about abortions. I suspect he really doesn’t. But, his actions have been very pro life so his personal views don’t matter really. The same with all of them. I think some truly follow what their hearts say and some do whatever gets them elected and I wish there was a way to tell the difference…but, there isn’t. We just have to trust what they do.
 
Though it should be noted Roe was only affirmed in a loose sense in Casey. While it proclaimed the “central holding” of some right to an abortion was correct, it narrowed it noticeably. The original Roe was far more broad in banning abortion regulation.
Roe had a standard of “strict scrutiny” of abortion laws passed by states. Casey changed that to “undue burden”, a standard, in practice, that has enabled greater restrictions on abortion to be passed by states.
 
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Prolife means anti abortion. That’s it. And yes, the Republican party is prolife.
If being pro-life only means being anti-abortion:

Then Josef Stalin was pro-life, because he changed the laws in the Soviet Union in 1936 to greatly restrict abortion. These laws were not repealed until after he died.

Apartheid South Africa was a pro-life country, because they had strict anti-abortion laws.

Communist Romania under Ceacescu was a pro-life country, because they had some of the strictest laws in the world against abortion.

Obviously, it would be insane to think of these evil regimes as pro-life.

Therefore I will say pro-life means a lot more than opposing abortion, although the fight against abortion is a key part. Pro-life means respect for life from conception until natural death, period. No less.
Using your same logic, you would have to say that Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi are pro-life. Sure, they’re for abortion, but they claim to want to end climate change, provide full healthcare for all, better housing options, open borders, etc.
 
Yea, Democrats are anti-life on issues other than abortion, unfortunately. 😟 Neither major party deserves Catholic support. I have to vote for individuals instead of party lines.
we must acknowledge that President Obama started this policy.
“But what about the Democrats?” isn’t a sufficient response here. It doesn’t remove any blood from Republican hands.
Republicans believe that the Democrats prefer to give people fish, while the Republicans prefer to teach people how to fish.
Self-sufficiency requires money. Where does that money come from? Government programs or just wages? Republicans seem to oppose both, and that’s not going to get anyone “off welfare.”
 
The Solidarity party acknowledges both. Not many people know of their existence but this is the party I can get behind with a clear conscience.
 
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The Solidarity party acknowledges both. Not many people know of their existence but this is the party I can get behind with a clear conscience.
Me too…Solidarity Party is good.

In order to get more legitimacy for any 3rd party, we should advocate for a rank-choice voting system that makes room for candidates outside of the two party system.
 
Using your same logic, you would have to say that Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi are pro-life. Sure, they’re for abortion, but they claim to want to end climate change, provide full healthcare for all, better housing options, open borders, etc.
You said pro-life = anti-abortion. I exposed the fallacy of that reasoning by pointing out that some tyrannical regimes have outlawed or strongly restricted abortion.

Then I went on to say “the fight against abortion is a key part” [of the worldwide pro life agenda] and that to be pro-life means to respect every human person from conception until natural death, no exceptions
 
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I believe the average Republican voter is. I don’t believe many of those running for office as republicans are. They are simply pro-power. They say they are pro life, and toss a few bones to their supporters, but mostly they are pro dollars-in-their-pockets. Now understand, I also think the democrats in office are little different.
 
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The Democrats have pretty much veered into Infanticide and Planned Parenthood has a lot of control over them. One can go on and on but that’s enough for me. I also don’t want the US to be funding abortions in 3rd world countries. Republicans don’t do that.


I’m not about to believe the Democrats can be pro-life in other forms if they have abhorrent views where many accept infanticide, bridge too far for me.
 
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Pro-Life means defending life in all forms. That is not just the unborn, it’s prisoners, impoverished, minorities, mentally ill, addicted, immigrants, abused, and so many others.
Actually, for Catholics, it is what the Vatican says. The Vatican respects all life but the unborn are the primary concern.

I’m not going to buy that one can support infanticide which might not be that different than abortion and claim they are pro-life.

Sure, we are to help all of those in need.
 
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complicent with inhumane border control detention centers where people are put in cages, and some even dying.
The cages were installed by the very Democrat President Obama. Although to be honest I didn’t have a problem with it. There is no evidence that border patrol abused the illegal aliens who forced their way across our borders.
looking down on the welfare system that would allow poor mothers to actually take care of the child when it’s born.
How are republicans “looking down” on welfare recipiants? President Trump brought unemployment down farther and faster than Obama did. Nothing helps welfare recipients more than a job.
Blackballing people who protest police brutality and racial injustice.
Whose been blackballed? There is no evidence that racism played a part in any of the cases where police harmed minorities. Police have a job to do that requires them to arrest suspected perpetrators of crime. If those suspects flee from or fight with police then the rules of the force continuum require the police to lay hands on the suspect. If the suspect attempts to kill police law enforcement must respond with deadly force.
 
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