Is There any Difference between Supporting Woman Privacy Right & Supporting Abortion?

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When one do not mind with porn, and even click the porn sites, one supporting porn business.

Prolife should be taught in catholic schools as refrain from porn, and not merely make women carry term is ever “prolife enough”(because without stressing on refrain from porn, it is still the same lying spirit that separate sex from reproduction context).

It should be tied with teaching about fatherhood and faithful God as oppose to father of lies who is unfaithful, idolatrous & adulterous who will not keep his promise, and is the murderer of fetus since the beginning of time (John 8:44)

Broken promise is a lie. Jesus identify His Father’s enemy as “the father of lies”. This means two things:
  1. The true God is truthful in His words. He keeps His Promise to Israel. The enemy teach falsehood. He does not keep any promise.
  2. The followers of each will each behave according to whom they follow. Therefore, those who are sincerely prolife should take the step unto marriage, if a child is conceived. And once married, the couple should guard their eyes from looking at other men/women (porn), because no man/ woman regardless age can invite idolatrous spirit (porn) without ever falling into idolatry/ adultery. There is no age restriction can protect somebody from falling into idolatry. Once the spirit is idolatrous, that spirit enslave him/ her unto adultery of the eye first, then the heart and mind, then unto real adultery, and even invite other idolatry of drugs/ alcohol unto the destruction of the person and his/ her children too.
John 8:44
You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

When the church teach “chastity”, some people do not realize that should include refrain from porn.

Mat5:28
But I say to you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart

Mark 7:21
For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, fornication, theft, murder, adultery,
 
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francisca.chapter3 said:
Prolife should be taught in catholic schools as refrain from porn, and not merely make women carry term is ever “prolife enough”(because without stressing on refrain from porn, it is still the same lying spirit that separate sex from reproduction context).
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Totally on board with that; just so long as we don’t dilute the pro life message. I see the connection you are making; but both are evil on their own as well.
 
francisca.chapter3 said:
I am saying, prolife movement should include speak against porn too, and not merely trying to ban abortion.
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By default, all obedient to Catholic Teachings Catholics are AntiAbortion …

AND, Just as the Church does in its Teachings
one should and must provide focus upon specific sins -
such as ABORTION and Active Homosexuality
  • one Sin at a Time.
This is essential for Understanding.

Some who come across soft on Church Teachings on Abortion and Homosexual Teachings,
often attempt to place a shifting attention away from these grievious sins

Why?

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We have a right to life and a right to privacy. The right to life of the foetus carries more weight than the right to privacy of the mother.
 
Johann_du_Toit said:
We have a right to life and a right to privacy. The right to life of the foetus carries more weight than the right to privacy of the mother.
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Yes…

And as with Jesus… He’s referred to as the Babe in Mary’s Womb…

Of interest too - is how John the Baptist - when also as a babe in a womb, recognized Jesus…
 
EndTimes said:
By default, all obedient to Catholic Teachings Catholics are AntiAbortion …
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By default, all obedient catholics are
  • anti adultery
  • anti porn
  • and yes, anti abortion too.
Prolife must be taught as an integrated teaching of human sexuality.
 
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Jimbo said:
dilute the pro life message.
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To separate reproduction issue from sexual behavior, is still being inspired by woman exploitation. Thus diluting pro life.

How do we defend the right of the fetus by offending the right of the mother?

To teach anti-porn is as urgent as anti-abortion, because the former is the brain of the latter. The brain that causes the crime

And yet, nobody mentioned the word “porn”. We hear “climate change” as one of the priorities along with several other things.

It’s as if people do not mind women are exploited by porn business.
 
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Johann_du_Toit said:
The right to life of the foetus carries more weight than the right to privacy of the mother.
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I agree. However, the mother is the first person of interest in fetus right defence. When you offend womans right, you are building weak structure of defense for the fetus right.

When women are exploited, her children are defenseless. This is a given. There is no escape around it.
 
francisca.chapter3 said:
By default, all obedient catholics are
  • anti adultery
  • anti porn
  • and yes, anti abortion too.
Prolife must be taught as an integrated teaching of human sexuality.
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OK. To extend that common argument…

By default all Catholics are potentially aligned with ALL Scriptures, Magisterium, Canon Law…

OK?

However…

A common demand of a certain few
which gets told to all of whom when IF speaking of Abortion and/or Homosexuality?

“You Must, You Have To speak of other Sins as well!”

Is but an attempt to deflect attention away from those Two Sins…
 
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EndTimes said:
“You Must, You Have To speak of other Sins as well!”

Is but an attempt to deflect attention away from those Two Sins…
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Not to difflect. To request for propotional attention to porn as the cause of many abortion.
 
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francisca.chapter3:
Not to difflect. To request for propotional attention to porn as the cause of many abortion.
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Would you settle for LUST and SELFISHNESS?
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I don’t understand your question.

What do you mean by “settle for lust & selfishness” above?
 
Please tell me where in the constitution is there a right to kill the unborn. When is killing a baby a privacy right. Pph has used this langugage for years on the gullible. I’m sure God is all in on killing his creation. Said sarcastically.
This so called privscy right has taken us down a dark deep path. Selling baby parts in the new thing.
 
francisca.chapter3 said:
Porn is a billion dollar business. If porn is made illegal, then there would be less abortion . Porn business continue making money out of young women, and at the same time, religious people remove their privacy right . We basically feed them to the lions.
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I think society has become selfish and so the easy way is not to think deeply about their actions and consecuence. I believe following the laws of God and of the church, difficult as they might appear, free us, they do not enslave us. Our vices on the other hand, make us prisoners. There will always be an excuse for abortion, porn o n porn. They are both industries that defile women and don’t take care of them afterwards. It is people of faith that open foundations that help those women.
 
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Lust, and, Selfishness - are the primary causes behind Abortions…
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Lust & selfishness is too general. I prefer to be more specific mentioning the key word “porn”, so not to be confused by mere personal failures of each person. Rather, a specific systematic propaganda that actively promotes adulterous behavior, creating new normal that accepts & assumes promiscuity in human society.

If the church only speaks generally about lust & selfishness, it looks like the problem is mere human weakness against own sexuality, forgetting the fact that porn exploit that weakness systematically.
 
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twoshoes said:
Please tell me where in the constitution is there a right to kill the unborn. When is killing a baby a privacy right. Pph has used this langugage for years on the gullible. I’m sure God is all in on killing his creation. Said sarcastically.
This so called privscy right has taken us down a dark deep path. Selling baby parts in the new thing.
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When something is legal now, but then is made illegal, what makes it impossible to be made legal again?

I don’t know anything about the law. But I think there are other places in the world where abortion is legal, and they don’t have woman privacy right as the basis of that legal abortion. I suppose, they legalize it simply because there is a need for it
 
Because the law of man is made legal does not make it moral. GODS LAW is all we should be concerned with, for the salvation of our SOUL. LIFE, LIBERTY. AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. The greatest is LIFE. Without life nothing else matters or can happen. What GOD has created no man should destroy, including children or the ecology
 
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