The people in Gaza would not be openly celebrating in the streets if they had any intention of not keeping the cease-fire: they would be sitting ducks. Whatever random elements might not be keeping it can and hopefully will be dealt with by the IDF in precision strikes if they don’t quit it: clearly the people in Gaza want and wanted the madness to stop.So much for the cease fire.
Ceasefire brokered by Egypt, U.S., went into force at 9:00 p.m. but Hamas keeps on firing rockets. In a joint mission by the IDF and the General Security Service, the operational facilities of Islamic Jihad in Gaza were hit. Two rockets were fired from southern Lebanon towards the Israeli border on Wednesday evening.
I dunno… I remember seeing this Reuters headline a couple days before the killing of Jabari.
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Israel’s next war may be with Gaza, but not Syria
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articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-11-12/news/sns-rt-us-israel-warbre8ab0td-20121112_1_disengagement-line-syrian-civil-war-gaza-strip
US drone attacks don’t target civilians and the civilian deaths caused by attacks against military targets are unintended and minimized. The bus attack is the exact opposite. It would be different if the bombers bombed the military headquarters the bus was passing by and the bus happened to be caught in that explosion.Do tell.
How about all the civilians killed in US drone attacks in Pakistan & Afghanistan, men,women and children alike?
I’m not asking because I’m anti-US of anti-Israel but there seem to some weird disconnects. Would the Palestinian attacks on Israel be more acceptable if the Palestinian Authority were a “real” government waging a declared war? What if the attack on the bus were carried out by Palestinian drones or soldiers operating behind Israeli lines?
Surprisingly few civilians have been killed by US drone attacks.Do tell.
How about all the civilians killed in US drone attacks in Pakistan & Afghanistan, men,women and children alike?
I’m not asking because I’m anti-US of anti-Israel but there seem to some weird disconnects. Would the Palestinian attacks on Israel be more acceptable if the Palestinian Authority were a “real” government waging a declared war? What if the attack on the bus were carried out by Palestinian drones or soldiers operating behind Israeli lines?
Well, that was still before the cease-fire; and hopefully they quit inciting people to murder and suicide now that there is an agreement. Both sides were doing things during the cease-fire negotiations that could have jeopardized it.This from Hamas about today’s bus bombing of civilians:
Later, in an interview on the Hamas TV station al Aqsa, the group’s spokesman Fawzi Barhoum called on Palestinians for more such attacks — even as cease-fire talks were under way.
You’re joking right?Surprisingly few civilians have been killed by US drone attacks.
I was inferring based on the post you were responding to as well as your previous posts on the topic of Israel. If not Israel, what country were you referring to?Why would you even think that I was referring to Israel?
Our forces operate under one of, if not the most restrictive ROEs ever used by our military, advances in tech allow for the most accurate delivery and least amount of explosives used to neutralize the target to date, military strategy focuses on “hearts and minds” instead of neutralizing military targets, and international and domestic political pressure is playing an increasing role in how we wage war. I fail to see how a low number of civilian deaths (and yes, when viewed in context with the history of warfare it is a low number) should come as a surprise.You’re joking right?
Debatable.US drone attacks don’t target civilians …
I meant non-combatant. Thank you for the correction.
I don’t believe al Alawaki every literally took up arms, but I agree with your analysis of the ROE. Since al Qaeda, Hamas and co are not signators to the Geneva Conventions, I’m not sure they would be afforded the same protections. Those organizations certainly have no compulsion against deliberately targeting civillians, or free fire in civillian settings.I meant non-combatant. Thank you for the correction.
live.reuters.com/Event/Conflict_on_the_Gaza_StripAt 5pm, Gaza was ghost town, people holed up inside fearing death from above, now 10k’s revellers rock streets, what an unbelievable change
Your provided link states he was involved in recruiting and planning of operations. That would put him as a combatant in my book (the planning more so than the recruiting).I don’t believe al Alawaki every literally took up arms, but I agree with your analysis of the ROE. Since al Qaeda, Hamas and co are not signators to the Geneva Conventions, I’m not sure they would be afforded the same protections. Those organizations certainly have no compulsion against deliberately targeting civillians, or free fire in civillian settings.
Israeli sources said Israel would not lift a blockade of the enclave it enforced after Hamas, which rejects the Jewish state’s right to exist, won a Palestinian election in 2006.
This is to be accomplished within 24 hours from the start of the ceasefire.However, Meshaal said the deal covered the opening of all of the territory’s border crossings. “The document stipulates the opening of the crossings, all the crossings, and not just Rafah,” he said. Israel controls all of Gaza’s crossings apart from the Rafah post with Egypt.