I know about John the Baptist, but the other one?If this were true, then my DH got DF’d unjustly! But thank God he did… sad he’s one again, well, sorta.
Because the only 2 bdays on the Bilbe “end” in tragic deaths… so they are plain evil. Muhahaha…
I don’t either… they just like to be known for their strange ways… they celebrated Christmas but not any more, but they do have the commemoration which is celebrating Jesus’ death. Why not his birth? They just like to stand out in the crowd. Nothing else.
How did early Christians and Jews of Bible times view birthday celebrations?
They started when? (the JW’s)
As I said before, a home-grown American cult. But, having said that, cults are as American as apple pie. But, if the JWs bought stock in Hallmark, they would be celebrating birthdays tomorrow.
I’m looking over at DH’s WT 2006 library, and man do they have a ton of material against bdays???
They are obsessed with this topic. I’d post some but it’s the Spanish version I have at home.The JWs prohibition against birthdays is as much of a joke as is their prohibition against blood transfusions. Of course, not celebrating a birthday won’t kill you (unless you forget your wife’s) but refusing a blood transfusion if you need one WILL kill you. It is especially stupid when it involves the life of a child. How anyone could put the life of a child in jeopardy because of a false belief about blood is totally beyond me.I’m looking over at DH’s WT 2006 library, and man do they have a ton of material against bdays???
You know, a while back I had posted some apologetics about another bday mentioned in the OT. I cannot remember where. I’ll have to search but it talks about how people were invited for their special day… this bday didn’t end in a tragic death!
What’s worse is that they are doing it in the name of God. My husband said he rather die than get a transfussion and leave me here on earth stuck with our future kids. He rather have his family suffer than stay alive for that “religion”. I put it this way to him: “What if we have 3 or more children, and have me be a stay at home mom like we wanted and you have an accident which requires you to have a transfussion in order to live? What would happen to me and the kids? Don’t you owe to your family to stay alive and support it? You have to provide for your family. God wouldn’t want you to die and leave us w/o anything here” all he said was that his Jehovah God means more to him than me and our future family. Then I asked if it was more the WT than God, because God made humans capable of using medical science to save our lives, and the WT is the only organization that has come up with this strange idea… I said God wouldn’t want him to die. I also said that thebiblical references they use are misinterpreted (just as the rest of their bible) and that they only meant “don’t eat blood”. A transfussion is a life-saving tool. We do not eat it. The Bible speaks about abstaining from certain types of food and the reference of blood is as food. Blood doesn’t even come close to the alcohol example the JWs use to prove their point. For that matter, why do some JWs eat medium rare meat, how about “rare” meat? Not all JWs like well done meat.
Another example of cultic behaviour.
yes indeed. I have an aunt that is a lifelong JW that says that the Epiphany star in the east at Jesus’ birth was actually the evil one trying to lead Herod to Jesus to kill him. How is that for folks who claim that they are “all the way” Bible followers?
Probably one of the best-known stars mentioned in the Bible is “the star” of Bethlehem that guided the astrologers from “eastern parts” to the house where Jesus had been taken by his parents after his birth in a stable. What was that star? Certainly it was not an ordinary one, since it was low enough for the astrologers to follow it for about a thousand miles [1,600 km]. “The star” led them first to Jerusalem. Hearing of this, King Herod questioned them and then decided to kill the infant Jesus. Then “the star” led the astrologers to the particular house where Jesus was living. Certainly no normal star could do that. Did this starlike object originate with God? Since the astrologers’ visit led indirectly to the slaughter of ‘all the boys in Bethlehem and in all its districts from two years of age and under,’ is it not reasonable to conclude that “the star” was something used by God’s Adversary, Satan, in an attempt to destroy God’s Son?—Matthew 2:1-11,*16.
As to the “star” (Gr., a·ster′) seen by them, many suggestions have been given as to its having been a comet, a meteor, a supernova, or, more popularly, a conjunction of planets. None of such bodies could logically have ‘come to a stop above where the young child was,’ thereby identifying the one house in the village of Bethlehem where the child was found. It is also notable that only these pagan astrologers “saw” the star. Their condemned practice of astrology and the adverse results of their visit, placing in danger the life of the future Messiah, certainly allow for, and even make advisable, the consideration of their having been directed by a source adverse to God’s purposes as relating to the promised Messiah. It is certainly reasonable to ask if the one who “keeps transforming himself into an angel of light,” whose operation is “with every powerful work and lying signs and portents,” who was able to make a serpent appear to speak, and who was referred to by Jesus as “a manslayer when he began,” could not also cause astrologers to ‘see’ a starlike object that guided them first, not to Bethlehem, but to Jerusalem, where resided a mortal enemy of the promised Messiah.—2Co 11:3,*14; 2Th 2:9; Ge 3:1-4; Joh 8:44.That’s the most twisted “explanation” I’ve ever heard. Give me a break. You have lost what little credibility that you might have possessed.Probably one of the best-known stars mentioned in the Bible is “the star” of Bethlehem that guided the astrologers from “eastern parts” to the house where Jesus had been taken by his parents after his birth in a stable. What was that star? Certainly it was not an ordinary one, since it was low enough for the astrologers to follow it for about a thousand miles [1,600 km]. “The star” led them first to Jerusalem. Hearing of this, King Herod questioned them and then decided to kill the infant Jesus. Then “the star” led the astrologers to the particular house where Jesus was living. Certainly no normal star could do that. Did this starlike object originate with God? Since the astrologers’ visit led indirectly to the slaughter of ‘all the boys in Bethlehem and in all its districts from two years of age and under,’ is it not reasonable to conclude that “the star” was something used by God’s Adversary, Satan, in an attempt to destroy God’s Son?—Matthew 2:1-11,*16.
The “astrologers from eastern parts,” hence from the neighborhood of Babylon, whose visit to King Herod after the birth of Jesus resulted in the slaughter of all the male infants in Bethlehem, were obviously not servants or worshipers of the true God. (Mt 2:1-18
I’m looking over at DH’s WT 2006 library, and man do they have a ton of material against bdays???
You know, a while back I had posted some apologetics about another bday mentioned in the OT. I cannot remember where. I’ll have to search but it talks about how people were invited for their special day… this bday didn’t end in a tragic death!
Ok, so let’s go with the tradition explanation that YHWH made a special star for some astrologers, who didn’t worship him or adhere to his laws, to come and find Jesus so Herod could try to kill him and subsequently kill all the boys in Jerusalem under 2 years old.
And your point is…?
I do think of those mothers who have lost their children due to the blood issue.