Tanner9188;5517488 said:
**1 Tim3:16 "By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory. **
The context is about Church and behavior !:>>1 Timothy 3: 8 Deacons likewise must be serious, not double-tongued, not addicted to much wine, not greedy for gain; 9 they must hold the mystery of the faith with a clear conscience.
10 And let them also be tested first; then if they prove themselves blameless let them serve as deacons.
11 The women likewise must be serious, no slanderers, but temperate, faithful in all things.
12 Let deacons be the husband of one wife, and let them manage their children and their households well;
13 for those who serve well as deacons gain a good standing for themselves and also great confidence in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.
14 I hope to come to you soon, but I am writing these instructions to you so that,
15 if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth.
16 Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of our religion: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.
Religion indeed means Godlinessof persons: and by the way I inserted nothing I’ll go with the Catholic rendering thank you !
I use these bibles for ref. Ignatius RSV, New Amer. RSV And New Jerusalem ABS
I also have a KJV.
Peace and God Bless, onenow1
Can you show from Scripture? No, because it is not there; your Bible has added and changed the contextual meaning. You stated "Religion indeed means Godlinessof persons:"
Here is an official definition of religion: An institution to express belief in a divine power.
deisidaimonia= is the Greek term for “religion”
1. in a good sense
a) reverencing god or the gods, pious, religious
2. in a bad sense
b) superstitious
3. religious
and also thrēskeia=religious worship
and ethelothrēskia = religion
- voluntary, arbitrary worship
a) worship which one prescribes and devises for himself, contrary to the
contents and nature of faith which ought to be directed to Christ
b) said of the misdirected zeal and the practice of ascetics
On the other hand; you said “eusebeia” = religion, but here is the definition
- reverence, respect
- piety towards God, godliness
This is the actual/correct context of 1 Tim 3:16 is the following:
1 Timothy 3:14-16
I am writing these things to you, hoping to come to you before long; but in case I am delayed, {I write} so that you will know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth. By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory.
14-16 These versus mark a transition point between the positive instruction of the first 3 chapters and the warning of the last 3 chapters. The second half of verse 15 expresses the theme of the epistle; setting things right in the church; the household of God, the individual body of believers including the leadership roles.
Hope this helps in you understanding and I would mark out the word religion and insert godliness to make your Bible accurate.
I would presume that they are alive, or “awake”. But I am confused by Paul saying that some are “sleeping?” But, if they were saved and baptized, they are a part of the Body of Christ, as are those of us in the 21st century, who are saved and baptized! But asking a non-catholic why they don’t pray through the saints(in a previous thread), is tantamount to asking them why they don’t eat ketchup on their French fries! And if you will lead, I’ll dance with you:thumbsup:Many of the verses(I am trying to talk s-l-o-w-e-r) mention people praying for each other while they are still alive!
