I wouldn’t necessarily agree with that. While much of what we believe about Mary is not explicit in the Scriptures - it is implicitly taught. The same can be said for the Trinity.
Where or not you believe the Commandments were written with the “finger of God” is irrelevant.
You bet, my brotha!
Does it not say that before you take the speck of dirt from your brother’s eye, you better remove the speck that is much larger from your own eye. It is not exact as what is written, but the meaning is the same none the less.guanophore;5609821]Heis, you have embraced so many heresies at this point that the Apostles would not consider you to be a member of the One Body of Christ. You have been carried away by “a different gospel”. However, we are all saved by grace, through faith, nad certainly you may be saved through invincible ignorance.
This is where you have problems. You see the Word, but do not realize it is alive through Christ, who is the Word.
Jesus is the Word of God, for it is written.
The Church came from Jesus, who is the Word of God.
Here you seem confused. You say I am in err on one hand, and then agree with me. You cannot sup at the table of the Lord and his enemy. You will love one and hate the other.
Jesus is the Word of God, both spiritual and written.
Can you prove that it was not already written in the archieves in the kingdom of God? I will ask you this again, I believe I asked you this once before, when Jesus rebuked the devil in the desert, he said it is written? Was that which was written in writing on earth or in heaven or both?
You see everything as either catholic or not catholic. I see everything as either truth or untruth, righteous or unrighteous, spiritual or man made.
His love conquers all.
The body of Christ is made up of many parts. Each performs certain functions and is benefical for the all.
Truth comes from God. Regardless of what you believe, the CC does not have a monopoly on truth. I don’t care if you are catholic or methodist or nothing. What I care about is truth, God’s truth which is the life bread of the Church through the only begotten Son of the Father.
The Word of God was given to the Church through the unction of the Holy Spirit. It is not the Holy Spirit of God that has brought seperation which created a multitude of different and diverse religions. It is the hardness of the hearts of men, creating their own interpretations, doctrines, creating their own God, ignoring the God of Creation.
The printing press came out when? Was it not around the 1400’s AD it was invented? Prior to that, it was all hand written.
You can deny the truth, but it does not change it from being true.
If the apostles were here today, you would not know them.
If numerous sources outside the catholic church agree with history, but yet conflict with the CC, you believe I should accept the catholic depiction of history, regardless of the many written accounts thoughout the world the reveal the catholic saga as not up to snuff?
If I did not love you, if I did not have his love in me for you, I would not be here.What is curious is that you are here, given what you seem to believe about the Catholic faith.
So you say that God does not have fingers or a nose because he is spirit? Wow, when did you get to see him in person?
If you want to be saved, you must be born again. To be born again, a man must understand that he is a sinner and falls short of the glory of God. A man must believe that God sent his only begotten Son into the Word to die in his place. A man must believe that Jesus shed his blood for him and that through his blood, his sins are washed away when the man asks for forgivness of his sins.
You simply don’t understand the Scriptures.
And I read that JPII article, and if I remember correctly, he was accused of heresy for saying that ALL men could be saved! Those who rebuked him, were saying that no one outside of the catholic church, could be saved(which is blasphemous at best) And speaking of twisting things, that’s what you are guilty of by painting Mary as the “new” Ark of the Covenant! Bad enough that you play God, and tell people that they are separated and can’t be saved outside of the cc(maybe not you personally, but the cc)
And it’s obvious that you have been properly catechised, as you are able to spout off what you have been taught. And believe it or not, Jesus will meet you wherever you are, whether or not you are in church(remember Paul on the road to Damascus?) We are saved by faith, through grace, to do those good works that God has set aside for us. ALL mankind were afforded the opportunity to receive the gift of salvation, but some receive it in the mission field, or at the grocery store, at a football game, etc. I admire and respect your dedication to your religion, and can feel your passion for the catholic church
There are too many things I cannot agree with, which prevents me from converting to catholicism; but I applaud anyone who stands up for what they believe in! First and foremost, I defend the Cross of Christ, by which I am saved! The Passover(in Exodus, was a picture of salvation) showed how all who were covered by the blood of the lamb(Lamb) were spared!You can but you’d not be practicing the Faith of Our Fathers.
altablz: W-O-W! You said a lot, without saying anything! Ever heard a good old hymn, called, “Nothing but the Blood.?” I t says, that nothing but the blood of Jesus, can WASH away our sins; not baptism
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BY BAPTISM
Baptism- is an external sign of internal grace that we receive by the acceptance of Jesus as our Lord and Savior.
Acts: 2:40-41
And he testified with many other arguments and exhorted them, saying, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” So those who welcomed his message were baptized, and that day about three thousand persons were added.
*Baptism is needed to those who welcomed his message.
(Jn.3:5)"Jesus answer Nicodemus,“Amen,amen I say to you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and spirit.”
*You can’t enter the Kingdom of God without it.
In (1 3:19-21)"in the days of Noah, during the building of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were saved through water. Baptism which correspondents to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God or a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
*St.Peter points out that the flood in the time of Noah anticipates Christian baptism, it is very important, and appeal to God. In a competetion gold medal is needed as a sign of you victory, likewise baptism is needed for Christian people as passage to heaven my friend.
It is obvious that you understand what I said but can’t accept it, you avoided the very important facts that I present about the authority of Christ established Church. If you can refute it you will probably face it, but you can’t and you want to divert my attention you can’t face the truth how sad. As I said this are God’s requirement from us, he uses his blood to purchase our sin that will saved us. But we need to apply it as God told us ok he required this for us to have. Did I not mentioned this to my example of scholarship?
There you go again elvisman, being condescending. “Confused friend” indeed. How do you know that a spirit does not have spirit fingers and nostrils, or prefers its spirit right hand to its left? But that’s not the point, as you should have known. The point is that the writer of Exodus portrayed God as being the sole writer of the commandments on the tables of stone – without the use of a human agent - on two occasions. He used the expression “finger of God” to convey his belief that the tables of stone were miraculous engraved by God Himself. Yet, on other occasions, the same writer tells us that Moses chiseled God’s commandments on the stone slabs. So the question remains “Who wrote on the slabs, God or Moses? Or was it a combined effort?
Again, you’re wrong because you just don’t understand the Catholic position on salvation outside the Church.elvisman: Now you are really S-T-R-E-T-C-H-I-N-G it, my brotha! Mary and the Ark of the Covenant???