Joe Biden Flubs DNC Speech Climax: ‘There’s Never Been Anything We’ve Been Able to Accomplish When We’ve Done it Together’

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TMC said:
Honestly, this is a tactical mistake by the Trump team. They have lowered expectations for Biden so far that he looks good when he just stands up and talks. Besides, as I pointed out earlier in the thread, even Fox is saying he did a good job with his acceptance speech.
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Even Van Jones agrees they just hold their breathe every time Biden speaks.

www.foxnews.com

CNN's Van Jones admits Dems were going to 'praise' Biden DNC speech 'as long as he didn't embarrass himself'

CNN commentator Van Jones suggested that he and other Democrats were going to "praise" Joe Biden's speech regardless of its context as long as the candidate didn't "embarrass himself."
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The bar is low. Most people do not like picking on a person they suspect has dementia.
 
TMC . . .
Honestly, this is a tactical mistake by the Trump team.
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Go back and look at the posts and threads here at CAF.

Team Democrat was also pointing out Joe’s cognitive decline. . . . Until they decided to put Joe up to run.
(I have put up many posts from the Democrats here on CAF from the Democrats talking about Joe’s mental faculties slipping away).
They have lowered expectations for Biden so far that he looks good when he just stands up and talks.
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I disagree. He may look fine when he stands up and reads a teleprompter,
but I do not think he looks fine when he stands up and talks (talks extemporaneously or in answering non-softball questions).
 
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d.stephenson said:
There’s a significant difference between allowing a woman to choose what to do to her body, and personally supporting the choice. I for one find abortion appalling, but it’s not my place to tell a woman what to do with her body.
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I’m inferring from this that you put a great amount of value in personal autonomy.

While not the same thing, I was looking at some past instances of conjoined twins being separated where the separation would predictably result in the death of atleast one person. There were incredibly difficult decisions to make in some of those scenarios.
 
d.stephenson. . . .
Just because Joe allows women to control their bodies doesn’t mean he wants them to have abortions.
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This is a Democrat talking point d.stephenson that has the built-in presupposition of depersonalizing the baby.

I am not saying you are thinking that.

But I am saying the national Democrats think this way and attempt to get us to think like that too.

Don’t fall for their pro-abort bait and switches.
Just because Joe allows women to control their bodies doesn’t mean he wants them to have abortions.
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Do you think that there could possibly be another separate “body” involved here when a woman decides to premeditatively murder her (pre-born) baby that is by-definition REFUSED to have any control of himself or herself?

Do you see how abortion (FORCIBLY tearing apart an innocent person limb from limb) is the antithesis of controlling your own body. At least for the baby?
 
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d.stephenson said:
I for one find abortion appalling, but it’s not my place to tell a woman what to do with her body.
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I, for one, find murder to be appalling…but I wouldn’t stand in the way of a murderer…it is their choice.

See how silly that is?
 
@d.stephenson . . .
There’s a significant difference between allowing a woman to choose what to do to her body, and personally supporting the choice. I for one find abortion appalling, but it’s not my place to tell a woman what to do with her body.
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ThinkingSapien . . . .
I’m inferring from this that you put a great amount of value in personal autonomy.
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I was inferring just the opposite.

Because the statement completely rejected the personal autonomy of one of the persons involved with an abortion (the personal autonomy of the pre-born baby).
 
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Don’t you think the Republicans are going to attack Joe Biden in their Convention? I can’t imagine Trump or his associates not attacking someone.

Insofar as reading from a teleprompter, I have no personal experience. When I teach, I do not use notes either. But I imagine it is not so easy to make a speech sound convincing when it is read from a teleprompter unless you have acting or oratory skills. The few times Trump has done so it was painfully obvious and boring. On the other hand, when he does not, his mind wanders and he is virtually incoherent.
 
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RolandThompsonGunner . . .
This is getting silly. Are we really going to have a thread everytime a politician stumbles in a speech?
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RidgeSprinter . . .
Ask the creator of the this thread.
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That’d be me.

Where have you guys been? Many here been having these conversations for the last 3 1/2 years concerning president President Trump. Covfefe.

You mean these conversations are now suppose to stop now that we’re having them about Joe Biden?
 
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Cathoholic said:
Where have you guys been? Many here been having these conversations for the last 3 1/2 years concerning president President Trump. Covfefe.
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We have not been having new threads each time Trump verbally stumbles, says something incoherent, or uses bad grammar/spelling on Twitter. The forum would be literally nothing else.
 
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JonNC:
Where was I poking fun at someone?
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Again, read the premise of this thread and the satire posted here.
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No. Answer my question. You’ve made an accusation without evidence.
I did not poke fun at anyone.
 
gam197 said:
The bar is low. Most people do not like picking on a person they suspect has dementia.
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LOL.

We are confronted with a situation wherein that might be true of both of the major candidates.

I think Trump’s constellation of issues is far more serious that Biden’s. In fact, I’ve observed Trump’s issues, but there is no serious outlet that contends that Biden is senile or has dementia. He is a gaff-o-matic, and when he speaks he could say something embarrassing, but that’s always been Joe Biden.

I think, upon reflection, that the Republican’s smear of Joe having dementia is just a lame attempt at leveling the playing field with their own candidate.
 
This position is curious to me …then why should we have any laws against murder?

If I don’t personally support murder and never choose to commit one why should I prevent the choice of another person to do so? That is between them and God.

Your position …

Similarly, we can add a whole host of personal choices, theft, drunk driving, illegal drug and human trafficking … Talk about justice reform and not locking people up for their “poor” choices

Actually sounds much like the Democratic Party platform
 
PaulinVA said:
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gam197:
The bar is low. Most people do not like picking on a person they suspect has dementia.
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LOL.

We are confronted with a situation wherein that might be true of both of the major candidates.

I think Trump’s constellation of issues is far more serious that Biden’s. In fact, I’ve observed Trump’s issues, but there is no serious outlet that contends that Biden is senile or has dementia. He is a gaff-o-matic, and when he speaks he could say something embarrassing, but that’s always been Joe Biden.

I think, upon reflection, that the Republican’s smear of Joe having dementia is just a lame attempt at leveling the playing field with their own candidate.
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You do not think that Joe had dementia and therefore it is fair game to comment on his speeches and his postures. You see it as a smear as do others and keep telling everyone that Joe is the same man he always has been. This time it was not a “gaffe” but a total mess up on what he wanted to say.

That is where it stands. He did not correct his own language in the speech that he wrote which made it sound very foolish.
 
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gam197 said:
That is where it stands. He did not coorect his own language in the speech that he wrote which made it sound very foolish
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You will think what you will think.

I am concerned that both of the candidates are older Americans.

They should both be enjoying retirement. It’s why Pence and Harris are probably some of the more important VP candidates in history.
 
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gam197:
That is where it stands. He did not coorect his own language in the speech that he wrote which made it sound very foolish
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You will think what you will think.

I am concerned that both of the candidates are older Americans.

They should both be enjoying retirement. It’s why Pence and Harris are probably some of the more important VP candidates in history.
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They are both older but Biden is almost 4 years older than Trump. It does make a difference. Again age is not only the factor but health and cognitive ability.
 
RolandThompsonGunner . . .
We have not been having new threads each time Trump verbally stumbles
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We have not been having new threads each time Biden verbally stumbles either.

I had no idea you were attempting to be “absolute” on this.

Since you are being “absolute”, it is not even close that we are having new threads each time Biden verbally stumbles.
 
gam197 said:
They are both older but Biden is almost 4 years older than Trump. It does make a difference. Again age is not only the factor but health and cognitive ability.
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And mental health in general.
 
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