John Kasich Thread

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From their respective website, April 25:
HOUSTON, Texas – Cruz for President Campaign Manager Jeff Roe today released the following statement:
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“Having Donald Trump at the top of the ticket in November would be a sure disaster for Republicans. Not only would Trump get blown out by Clinton or Sanders, but having him as our nominee would set the party back a generation. To ensure that we nominate a Republican who can unify the Republican Party and win in November, our campaign will focus its time and resources in Indiana and in turn clear the path for Gov. Kasich to compete in Oregon and New Mexico, and we would hope that allies of both campaigns would follow our lead. In other states holding their elections for the remainder of the primary season, our campaign will continue to compete vigorously to win.”
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Tonight, Kasich for America chief strategist John Weaver issued the following statement:
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“Donald Trump doesn’t have the support of a majority of Republicans – not even close, but he currently does have almost half the delegates because he’s benefited from the existing primary system. Our goal is to have an open convention in Cleveland, where we are confident a candidate capable of uniting the Party and winning in November will emerge as the nominee. We believe that will be John Kasich, who is the only candidate who can defeat Secretary Clinton and preserve our GOP majority in the Congress.
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Due to the fact that the Indiana primary is winner-take-all statewide and by congressional district, keeping Trump from winning a plurality in Indiana is critical to keeping him under 1237 bound delegates before Cleveland. We are very comfortable with our delegate position in Indiana already, and given the current dynamics of the primary there, we will shift our campaign’s resources West and give the Cruz campaign a clear path in Indiana.
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In turn, we will focus our time and resources in New Mexico and Oregon, both areas that are structurally similar to the Northeast politically, where Gov. Kasich is performing well. We would expect independent third-party groups to do the same and honor the commitments made by the Cruz and Kasich campaigns.
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We expect to compete with both the Trump and Cruz campaigns in the remaining primary states.”
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(The parts I bolded are parts I find a bit peculiar.)
 
P.S. On the other hand, before now Gov Kasich gave me the impression that he didn’t care much who wins unless it’s him. I’m not getting that impression now so that’s one good thing anyhow. 🙂
 
Mary Bobo. You said:
Agree. If Trump, or anyone else, wants to change the system, get elected and work on that from the inside. This just makes Trump look bad, IMO.
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Good point.
Trump will be 70 years old before November and I get the perception he is worn out.

Trump likes to “campaign” from Trump Towers, calling the media to come to him (and they HAVE come to him giving him an estimated 2 BILLION dollars of free media coverage).

Trump at the last minute, cancelled an 8 AM talk he was supposed to give CPAC.

This was AFTER some conservative states were done with their elections.

Now last week BEFORE liberal states are coming up, Trump calls for

. . . .increases in taxes (he says for “the wealthy” just like Obama, Sanders, and Clinton),

. . . . . moving the Republican Party platform for ABORTION (here), and

. . . . calling for men to be able to use bathrooms with little girls (which will mean MORE PERSECUTION for Christians who oppose such things like people who have opposed same sex “marriage” publicly).

Coincidence? No way!

Trump doesn’t have the energy to stay up all night “Tweeting” then get out and campaign in the same manner that others do (like personally appealing to the delegates AND the people).

Even Hillary is criticizing Trump for this (see between 30 seconds and 47 seconds here) apparent laziness. One of the few things Hillary and I agree on.

Then to compensate for his sloth, Trump hollers and bad-mouths other candidates to make up for his lack of appeal calling the system “rigged” (the rules are set up this way purposefully to thwart any potential usurpers to Party ideology. If you don’t like it, run OUTSIDE the Party), calling his opponents “cheaters” and crying “collusion”.

Trump’s whining about “collusion” ring hollow when Chris Christie and his kid are New Jersey Republican delegates.

Trump’s whining about “collusion” ring hollow when Chris Christie is using his Gubanatorial influence, to “cook” the New Jersey Primary ballot (see here).

**On June 7, Trump and the slate of delegates supporting him will appear in advantaged positions on the ballot in 13 of New Jersey’s 21 counties. **

Trump’s whining about “collusion” ring hollow when Chris Christie is using his Gubanatorial influence to evangelize for Trump ([here](Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...p-chris-christie-new-jersey-delegate-progress)).

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“The governor’s done a really good job of making sure that we all understand how important for the state and the country” it is to support Trump, says Bill Layton, the Burlington County GOP chairman.**

No “whining” about “collusion” from Trump here.

Kasich has apparently utilized some of his personal ties in New Jersey too (here) which is reasonable (but not “whine-able” and “collusion-able” as Trump tries to make out) .

**Union County is the one place that awards a county line where Trump did not win it. In that county, John Kasich won the county line. Kasich has a personal connection to the area
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Trump wants Senator Cruz to be his political “patsy”. But it isn’t going to happen.

Christie sits behind Trump and refers to him as “Mr. Trump” now and does what he is told.

Tonight Trump will win liberal states and the media will again be trying to give Trump a “coronation” because they want to see the Hillary-Trump bloodbath.

But if Senator Cruz gets past the first ballot, if Trump gets forced into taking on Cruz one on one, Cruz will emerge victorious. And Trump knows it.

Trump’s only chance is to not let it get to “the play offs”.
 
Lily_Bernans said:
I wish he could learn to take criticism and even defeat with some graciousness. Calling Ted Cruz Lyin’ Cruz all the time offends even me, and I’m not a Cruz fan, but I’ll take him over Trump.
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I don’t think it is in his DNA to take criticism of any kind. I only minored in psychology, but I think he is a very disordered individual. What he has done to the GOP, and this election cycle, is just unbelievable. And I still do not think he would make a good president.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Kasich could have, instead, told young men not to rape. But how much sense would that have really made? I daresay there isn’t a young man in the country who doesn’t know you can go to prison for decades, even life, for committing rape. Was he supposed to say “Now, you young men out there, don’t rape anybody. Rape is a terrible thing.” he would have sounded like the dumbest person alive, and it would certainly have been pointed out incessantly that he sounded like a fool. More than that, it would have sounded so supercilious that people would be howling that he was treating it lightly.

Instead, he said what every conscientious parent says to their daughter. “Watch out for parties where there’s a lot of alcohol. Protect yourself.”

And that’s interpreted as “blaming the victim” when Kasich said it. If Hillary Clinton had said it, it would have been interpreted as a wise caution to young women about the predation of young males in a male-dominated society in which rape is considered a primeval male right.
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mary_bobo said:
I don’t think it is in his DNA to take criticism of any kind. I only minored in psychology, but I think he is a very disordered individual. What he has done to the GOP, and this election cycle, is just unbelievable. And I still do not think he would make a good president.
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I agree with you, Mary.
 
Cathoholic said:
If you don’t like it, run OUTSIDE the Party
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The thing is, the line between running inside the Party and running outside the Party is extremely blurred. I’m starting to wonder if there’s any limit on how anti-Republican a Republican presidential bid can be. 🤷

I’m not saying the GOP will be destroyed, but I think it will be difficult for the Party to recover.
 
Peter_J said:
The thing is, the line between running inside the Party and running outside the Party is extremely blurred. I’m starting to wonder if there’s any limit on how anti-Republican a Republican presidential bid can be. 🤷

I’m not saying the GOP will be destroyed, but I think it will be difficult for the Party to recover.
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The Repub party can certainly destroy itself if it wants it bad enough. There do seem to be some blocs that would be pleased with that, thinking if the destruction is only bad enough their own brand will somehow emerge as “the party” like a Phoenix rising from its ashes.

In my opinion, the various groups are terribly mistaken in thinking that. Like Trump or hate him, adore Cruz or despise him, they really are going to lose the election if they’re sufficiently determined to do so.

Trump’s complaint about a “rigged system” is correct, of course, but it’s not a single “rigged system”. It’s several. Different powers-that-be in various states have rigged things the way they think will best serve the party’s interests and their own. Nothing new in that. The Dem system is severely rigged, too; something Sanders has rightly pointed out.

But the Dem party doesn’t have the centrifugal forces within it that the Repub party does. Abortion on demand is the glue that holds the Dem party together, and it’s stronger than all other party forces put together.

Inasmuch as the Repubs don’t have a cohesive force that quite compares, they’re free to form cliques and blocs that stand for everything from ultra libertarianism to party oligarchy.
 
Why is the Kasich thread the only candidate thread that remains open here?
 
In post 81 it was mentioned (emphsis here). . . .
the media will again be trying to give Trump a “coronation” because they want to see the Hillary-Trump bloodbath.
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You can see an example of this with Kevin McCollough here (begin at about 1:20).
 
Little Sheep:
Why is the Kasich thread the only candidate thread that remains open here?
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7 Sorrows:
they should all be open.
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Do you people think the moderators would mind if we just re-stated all the candidate threads on the “back fence”?

We’ve had very good discussions, everybody has seemed to be pretty respectful of others, even when they disagree, I’ve learned a lot from “yall”, and this election year is very unique.

Any thoughts?
 
Ridgerunner said:
The Repub party can certainly destroy itself if it wants it bad enough. There do seem to be some blocs that would be pleased with that, thinking if the destruction is only bad enough their own brand will somehow emerge as “the party” like a Phoenix rising from its ashes.
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When we talk about people wanting to destroy the party, the main thing that comes to my mind is that many people start with a “plague on both your houses mentality” … but fail to see the incompatibility between that starting point and an ending point wherein one party is damaged severely and the other one is hardly even scratched.
 
Theo520. You mentioned (and Lily seconded):
The Kasich column is embarrassing,
he still hasn’t caught Rubio.
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Good point.

Someone the other day quipped: “Kasich is running fourth in a three man race.”
 
Cathoholic said:
Do you people think the moderators would mind if we just re-stated all the candidate threads on the “back fence”?

We’ve had very good discussions, everybody has seemed to be pretty respectful of others, even when they disagree, I’ve learned a lot from “yall”, and this election year is very unique.

Any thoughts?
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I think the political discussions here have been very tame and also very informative. I thought it made sense to have one main thread for each candidate, but perhaps now, the Mods want us to just post individual articles.

Who knows???!!!

In any event, as for Kasich…I’m not sure why he is still in the race.

As for last night, congrats to both party front-runners for winning very big! I think we know who will be on the ticket come November.
 
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