Kavanaugh endorsement rescinded

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Not to mention, the ten percent about whom there are lies are individuals, not a statistic. They can’t be convicted based on a statistic like that. Each case needs to be judged according to its merits.
 
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Ah but we’re not convicting a man here. Just reasonably denying him a position that anyone in his position as it stands now has no business proceeding with. Is that fair to him, maybe not if he’s innocent. But it’s not a chance the country can afford to take. And besides, who says life is fair. Suffering is part of life, a good part of this board is to be believed. If he is innocent he’ll come out the other side a stronger man for his trials. If he’s not innocent… well we’d all be counting ourselves lucky.
 
Absolutely I do since it’s a studied truth. And one i’ve experienced personally. No one wants to believe it when it happens or twenty years later. It’s too sickening, too revolting, and all too unreal for far too many to accept. So they pretend it couldn’t have happened, or make excuses for the attacker, or worst yet, blame the victim.
 
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Thorolfr said:
It appears that the 2% statistic I was quoting was the “annual divorce rate” and I’m not sure what that means exactly. But I don’t know that the divorce rate of same-sex couples is higher than that for opposite-sex couples. There probably aren’t a lot of statistics on that yet.
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Thank you for the clarification. The same-sex divorce rate is much lower in Denmark, which has allowed same-sex marriage for a long time:

Denmark. As of 1997, the same-sex partnership divorce rate was significantly lower than that of heterosexual couples in Denmark. The vast majority of gay marriages in Denmark are male-male. Fourteen (14) percent of these end in divorce, compared to 23 percent of female marriages.

It seems no matter where, homosexual male-male marriages are the most lasting:

www.cbs.nl

Lesbian couples likelier to break up than male couples

More lesbian than gay couples decide to break up.
www.cbs.nl www.cbs.nl

I’m kind of surprised. I would have thought the males would have had a higher divorce rate than the females.
 
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HarryStotle said:
Actually, he admitted he did drink to excess, but he claimed he never blanked out.
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But his acquaintances say he did. Now his name is even appears in a letter written in high school or college, which discusses his drinking problem and blacking out.

That isn’t the problem, though. The problem is: He lied about something significant. It’s not right to appoint a proven liar to the highest court in the land, one in which there is no process for removal. Brett Kavanaugh appears to be a liar, and there are plenty of other conservatives Trump could appoint. Confirming Kavanaugh will cause the court to have credibility problems, and it’s just not necessary.
 
Augustinian said:
I don’t see cause for destroying Kavanaugh’s life, there is definitely a reasonable doubt.
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I hardly think it would destroy his life! I think you’re being far too melodramatic. Was Merrick Garland’s life destroyed when the Senate sat on their hands and did nothing for almost a year? No. Kavanaugh has a profession and is liked by some. His life will go on and he’ll still be wealthy.

I believe Ford, primarily because she discussed this incident with a therapist years before Trump was even president. But that’s not the problem. The problem is that Kavanaugh lied about drinking to excess. Sure, he said he likes a beer or two. Nothing wrong with that. But he lied about drinking to excess years ago and blacking out. There exists a letter in which Kavanaugh is named as one of a group of drinkers who drank until they blacked out. One of his good friends said Kavanaugh lied. Since the Supreme Court seat has been vacant for so long, obviously the Senate sees no problem in waiting a little longer and choosing someone who isn’t going to sit in front of them and lie to them. Obviously, the man has an agenda that does nothing to elevate the Court and everything to darken it.
 
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eann said:
Last time I looked she had $700,000 in her Gofundme account. Not too shabby.
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Better look again. She has $528,500. A nice chunk of money, but definitely NOT $700,000. Not even close. And I don’t think she asked for that or anticipated it. Nor do I think she forever wants to be known as “that woman who was almost raped by Kavanaugh,” which is how people will remember her whether Kavanaugh is guilty of assaulting her or not.

https://www.gofundme.com/help-christine-blasey-ford
 
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This doesn’t answer the problem that false accusations are made and people do get wrongfully convicted, and we need to treat each accused person as an individual and not a statistic.
 
‘We’re not convicting’, but still deciding his guilt, which is a judicial exercise. His life is ruined all the same, jail is not the only punishment and it’s disingenuous after the last two weeks to pretend that the only thing all this has cost him is a position or a job.
 
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Rubee said:
‘We’re not convicting’, but still deciding his guilt, which is a judicial exercise. His life is ruined all the same, jail is not the only punishment and it’s disingenuous after the last two weeks to pretend that the only thing all this has cost him is a position or a job.
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Well, then, I guess he should have been truthful about his drinking problem in high school and college. He should have known “the truth is out there.”

I AM an American, and no way do I want a liar on the Supreme Court. It will taint the reputation of the Court for as long as he’s on it, which will be the balance of his life or until he retires. A long time.

Kavanaugh’s life is NOT “ruined.” That’s laughable. Go to Puerto Rico. There, you will see truly ruined lives. And that’s just a start. Don’t get me started on African countries or even the homeless population of my city, Los Angeles.
 
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You have no proof he lied. He spoke of drinking too much. American or not, justice is justice.
 
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Rubee said:
You have no proof he lied. He spoke of drinking too much. American or not, justice is justice.
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Well, his high school and college friends say he drank to the point of blacking out. And there is a letter, written by one of them back then, that mentions Kavanaugh’s excessive drinking. Kavanaugh got very defensive about it when asked and would not give a straight or calm answer. Very telling.

We are NOT doling out “justice” here. We’re deciding if a man is fit to serve on the Supreme Court of the United States for the rest of his life. No, Kavanaugh is not. He has too much against him. All of his votes would be looked at askance.

There are plenty of other good, truthful men to choose from.
 
You have no idea where I come from. I am not from the first world even though I now reside in it. I have witnessed misery. And none of it justifies treating someone this way. The fact that there are people who suffer more doesn’t mean people who suffer less are not really suffering. That’s a strange logic. Public humiliation causes grave suffering and is why destroying people’s reputation wilfully is a mortal sin. It affects someone’s ability to live well in his society, not to mention livelihood. Why is that controversial?
 
The letter mentions excessive drinking and he already admitted that, to the point he said it made him cringe. The black outs are a few friends, others have vouched for him, why do you believe some and not the others?
 
Cast the first stone, I’m sure only sinless people serve in your Supreme bench.
 
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The letter mentions excessive drinking and he already admitted that, to the point he said it made him cringe. The black outs are a few friends, others have vouched for him, why do you believe some and not the others?
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Why do you?
 
Rubee said:
Cast the first stone, I’m sure only sinless people serve in your Supreme bench.
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They didn’t lie to the Senate during their confirmation hearings.

And if anyone can cast the first stone, it’s me. I’ve never had a drink of alcohol in my life.
 
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Because I have no concrete proof he did anything and no reason to believe contradictory statements. Seeing he was honest about having a drinking problem, I consider that sufficient.
 
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