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The eunuch was reading Scripture. Philip was a first-hand witness.King James version…Dropped from Heaven intoPhilip’s waiting hands…
Oh! Wait a minute!!There was
no KJV until 1611!! Maybe they had a
time machine??
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The eunuch was reading Scripture. Philip was a first-hand witness.King James version…Dropped from Heaven intoPhilip’s waiting hands…
Oh! Wait a minute!!There was
no KJV until 1611!! Maybe they had a
time machine??
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I guess you haven’t read the book of Revelations.Besides Jesus, how do you know that anybody in Heaven is praying? Angels ARE messengers. Look up Jacob’s Ladder.
The Bible says to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Once you die, you see Him. Either as Savior or as Judge.
kujo313 said:“It’s all about you! It’s all about you! It’s all about you! Jesus!!”
The eunuch was reading Scripture. Philip was a first-hand witness.
But, the book of Acts wasn’t finished yet!?!The eunuch was reading Scripture. Philip was a first-hand witness.
You couldn’t be more wrong, here is only one example in Revelation, among many.Besides Jesus, how do you know that anybody in Heaven is praying? Angels ARE messengers. Look up Jacob’s Ladder.
No, everyone is judged, good and bad alike. No one escapes judgement, not one.The Bible says to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Once you die, you see Him. Either as Savior or as Judge.
Well, look at it this way. A good Christian will more than likly pray for you if you ask them.Besides Jesus, how do you know that anybody in Heaven is praying? Angels ARE messengers. Look up Jacob’s Ladder.
The Bible says to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Once you die, you see Him. Either as Savior or as Judge.
My brother, you are mistaken. Please do not take offense when I correct. When Jesus said this he was reffering to the old testament. And the time Paul had not been converted, so all the pauline letters would have to had been thrown out. Paul had not written revelation so one would have had to have thrown that away. Indeed, Matthew hadn’t written the gospel of Matthew when Jesus had said this. Jesus I doubt would have excluded the New Testament.Matt 22:29
Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God."
Oh, you know the Scriptures. You don’t like it.
But that does not exclude Sacred Tradition. Jesus and the Apostles use Sacred Tradition numerious times if I am show you brother. Matt. 2:23 - the prophecy “He shall be a Nazarene” is oral tradition. It is not found in the Old Testament. This demonstrates that the apostles relied upon oral tradition and taught by oral tradition.Matt 26:56
But all this was done that the Scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled.”
No “traditions” mentioned here. Maybe their “traditions” WAS following the Scriptures!
But, doesn’t Jesus say in SACRED SCRIPTURE “you are Peter and upon this rock I will build my church;and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.Mark 12:10
Have you not even read this Scripture: ‘ The stone which the builders rejectedHas become the chief cornerstone.
Luke 24:27
Scripture says Jesus IS the cornerstone, not Peter. No wonder you want tradition.
See my words directly above on Peter and Jesus. But let me expound on your scripture as it reveals to Sola Scriptora. Again that would be Old Testament only. Yes Scripture does testify to Jesus but, so does Sacred Tradition.And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.
Note he did not use “traditions”
John 5:39-40
You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
Your “rock” is Peter, not Jesus. If Scriptures reveal Jesus, tell me, name the tradition and why you need it.
But, Acts hadn’t been writen yet. That would deny the majority if not all of the New Testament. Nor does Philip say what was and what wasn’t in scripture, nor that one couldn’t use Sacred Tradition. And scince the new testament hadn’t been written yet, any refrence to Jesus life would have been non-scriptural.Acts 8:35
Then Philip opened his mouth, and beginning at this Scripture, preached Jesus to him (the eunuch).
“Sola Scriptula” strikes again!
But the scripture they look for was the Old Testament which Jesus not in. Anything of The Gospel of Jesus would have been Sacred Tradition (seeing how they had not the new testament yet they would have had to rely soly on Sacred Tradition which was handed down.Acts 17:2
Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures
(not “traditions”)
Acts 17:11
These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so
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Yes dear brother, scripture is profitable and good, that is why we use it. But, it does not say that it is the only thing to use. It does not say that Scripture is the sole, nore suffictent by itself. Which would lead one to think that one would need Sacred Tradition.2 Tim 3: 16
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness
“All”, taken from the Greek word meaning “All”. And it’s profitable, too! In what? “Righteousness”
Yes, Jesus is the Conerstone but that doesn’t negate what Jesus said about Peter in Matthew 16 that he was the Rock he would build his church on.1 Peter 2:6
Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture, “ Behold, I lay in Zion A chief cornerstone, elect, precious,And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame
Peter confesses that Jesus IS the cornerstone.
But if you Test Scripture you will find that you should use Sacred Tradition.Matt. 15:3 - Jesus condemns human traditions that void God’s word. Some Protestants use this verse to condemn all tradition. But this verse has nothing to do with the tradition we must obey that was handed down to us from the apostles. (Here, the Pharisees, in their human tradition, gave goods to the temple to avoid taking care of their parents, and this voids God’s law of honoring one’s father and mother.)1 Thes 5:21
Test all things; hold fast what is good.
Test against what? Tradition??
My dear child, That is what the Catholic Church does, Confesses that Christ Jesus came in the Flesh and is of God. And would that mean that The catholic Church is Good, and you should follow here teaching.1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Test? How? Verse 2
By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
Yes there is a lot of Mary and Jesus in Sacred Tradition.Read on. Oops! John does not mention Mary! Must be under T for “tradition”.![]()
Isn’t this thread about Mary? And isn’t Hail Mary about Mary?pirate was actually questioning sacramental confession to a priest, not the Hail Mary per se. Pirate, there are plenty of other threads here where the need for sacramental confession is discussed (not to mention info in the library on this website). Keep this thread on topic please.
My mother taught me well when I was young until I learned how to read. Are you saying that blind people can’t study the Bible?How can you study the bible when you are 3? How old were you when you learned to read? You honestly had the attention span when you were 3 to sit down and study the bible?
LilyM said::dancing: :clapping: :bounce: :bowdown:
“It’s all about you! It’s all about you! It’s all about you! kujo!!”
you’re so determined to be right that you are ignoring substantial chunks of the NT, including the reference in revelations to those in heaven offering the prayers of those on earth to God, as well as at least half of all the points the good people on here are making …
‘Jesus wants everybody to get the same treatment’ my foot - he didn’t treat all people the same, he singled out Peter among the apostles and James and John after that … so did the other apostles … not everyone got the keys to the kingdom, not everyone was commanded to ‘feed my sheep, feed my lambs’, not everyone was given the power to bind and loose … what part of this pattern are you not getting, not all are equal, not on earth and not all in heaven.
All are equally saved, sure, that’s different to being all treated exactly alike. I love all my family and all its members, I don’t treat them all precisely the same.
I don’t quite understand the whole purgatory thing, so just help me understand it. But what I understand is that Catholics try to pray people out of purgatory. But it seems that if you choose Christ before you die, you go to heaven, because your sins are forgiven. But if you don’t accept Christ, you go to hell. So where does purgatory fall in?He is already your savior. You either live in him now or reject his teachings. You don’t get to choose him as your savior after you die.
A blind man can atleast listen to audio cds. Without these though it would be very tough for a blind man to study scripture.My mother taught me well when I was young until I learned how to read. Are you saying that blind people can’t study the Bible?
Yep. The old testament. I am almost sure he was reading the book of Macabees!The eunuch was reading Scripture. Philip was a first-hand witness.