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mekem
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I am uncofortable with songs that have the congregation saying words of Jesus. For instance “I Am the Bread of Life.” And as a musician, most of the so-called modern songs are musically boring!
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mary_bobo
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I just wish they wouldn’t use songs and hymns that are NOT written for an alto!!!
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puzzleannie
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you simply cannot repeat accusations about people in this careless way. The link you gives criticizes his music and makes an unsubstiated claim about his lifestyle, based on some groups that use his music. The link offers no credible evidence, simply repeats the gossip. Whether it is true or not, passing on such rumors borders the sins of detraction and calumny, and the legal offenses of slander and libel. Just because I can’t stand his music gives me no excuse for slandering the man personally.
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puzzleannie
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gloryb
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I do not know “The Servant King” but our choir (I’m a member) does do “Shine Jesus Shine.” That is very popular at our church and at most churches where I’ve heard of it being sung–both Catholic and Protestant.
A disguised soccer chant??!!
What we should concentrate upon are the words of the songs. And when we have a problem with the music I think it should be on the doctrine in the words–such as what we say in “Amazing Grace.” I also agree with the person who had a problem with “Mary Did You Know.” It conflicts with Catholic doctrine and does not belong in our churches.
As for least liked songs–I always dislike highly repetetive songs. We did one that said “Jesus is Lord, Jesus is Lord, Jesus is Lord, Jesus is Lord (pause) Jesus is Lord, Jesus is Lord, Jesus is Lord, Jesus is Lord” I was ready to tell the choir director if we did that one more time a loud scream would go up from among us!
The words should be good—but not over and over and over…
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Elzee
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What are some of the words to "Mary Did You Know’. Don’t think I’ve heard this one…what conflicts with our doctrine?
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Servus_Pio_XII
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Oh, this is easy, several others have mentioned these:
The pantheistic hymns.
You know, Eagle’s Wings, et al.
The pantheistic hymns.
You know, Eagle’s Wings, et al.
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malcolm_davies
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Most people here, including me, are opposed to songs which worship the people, rather than worshipping God.
In that case should most/all Marian songs be banned from Mass as well as they are praising the creature and not the creator ?
In that case should most/all Marian songs be banned from Mass as well as they are praising the creature and not the creator ?
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JSmitty2005
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I strongly dislike “Lord I lift your Name on High” because it often leads to clapping and dancing which are obviously irreverent during the Solemn Sacrifice of the Mass.
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OutinChgoburbs
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inhis.com/stories/Story.asp?id=1366
I think they are concerned with the last verse, especially. It was written by evangelicals.
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Tantum_ergo
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Off the top of my head, I cannot think of any Marian songs (except Gentle Woman, ugh) that do not speak of her as MOTHER of GOD (and even that one has a quick passing reference of “chosen by the Son”). No, they all wind up pointing the way to Jesus, because that is what Mary herself always does. So Marian songs do not puff up the created at the expense of the creator. . .IMO. . .
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JSmitty2005
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OutinChgoburbs said:
I don’t think that there’s anything doctrinally wrong with “Mary did you know” but contemporary songs like this (that are usually written by Protestants) always rub me the wrong way at Mass. They sound like fingernails on a chalkboard, but that’s just me.
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Holy_Family_12
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“There are so many-the bad far outweighs the good.Turning “Annie’s Song” into a hymn…very irreverent.”
I went to a parish that used the alleluia from the movie SHREK before the Gospel reading.
They changed a few words. (Why bother?)
My grade schooler chuckled through the whole homily.
I went to a parish that used the alleluia from the movie SHREK before the Gospel reading.
They changed a few words. (Why bother?)My grade schooler chuckled through the whole homily.
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Holy_Family_12
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“Mary did you know …the baby you delivered will soon deliver you?”I don’t think that there’s anything doctrinally wrong with “Mary did you know” but contemporary songs like this (that are usually written by Protestants) always rub me the wrong way at Mass. They sound like fingernails on a chalkboard, but that’s just me.
That doesn’t seem very doctinally sound
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JSmitty2005
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Holy Family 12 said:“Mary did you know …the baby you delivered will soon deliver you?”
That doesn’t seem very doctinally sound
How is this contrary to the Church’s teachings? Mary’s Immaculate Conception was the work of God, not of her own. And the baby she delivered is God! So Jesus did deliver her. However, I understand what you mean because the lyrics indicate that this has not yet occurred.
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OutinChgoburbs
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QUOTING THE WEB SITE, SLIDING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM:
*Mary, did you know that your baby boy *
is Lord of all creation? Of course she knew!
*This sleeping child you’re holding *
is The Great I Am? I can almost her Her say, “And…?”
It assumes 1.) Mary was in the dark on the whole matter and 2.) stayed in the dark until she arrived in Heaven. She just had this Baby and never thought about Him being anything other than another kid, even though she had all these prior events.
As far as Mary WOULD BE delivered- she was already delivered.
And the Immaculate Conception means Mary was conceived without sin- it does not mean Jesus’ conception, also immaculate, but not the same thing, as Mary does not have a dual nature. Mary was conceived without original sin. Jesus was God made Man, dual nature.
All in all, not a great song, theologically.
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JSmitty2005
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Points well taken, I agree. By the way, I know what the Immaculate Conception is
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JSmitty2005
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Another song that I don’t like has lyrics that go: “When we eat this bread and drink this cup we proclaim your death Lord Jesus.” I don’t remember ever eating bread at Mass. This song seems to be an outright denial of the Real Presence. 
That’s one of the standard Memorial Acclamations.Another song that I don’t like has lyrics that go: “When we eat this bread and drink this cup we proclaim your death Lord Jesus.” I don’t remember ever eating bread at Mass. This song seems to be an outright denial of the Real Presence.
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JSmitty2005
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I know, but how can it say that? I’m new to all this, so I don’t really know what I’m talking about. Can you explain how this doesn’t deny the Real Presence?
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