Left cheers Harry Styles In Dresses on Vogue Magazine Cover

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In “The Last Lion”, the excellent biography of Winston Churchill by William Manchester, it is reported that Churchill wore pink satin underwear. Go figure…
 
I’ve known straight guys with no tendency to cross dress who liked women’s satin underwear (if they were small enough to fit in it) because it’s comfortable. Nowadays they probably just make it in men’s sizes.
 
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What I posted earlier is cassocks, Sorry! Here we go. I hope this is a falda.

The Pope and religious wore falda which means skirt and it’s literally a long skirt.
 
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Thanks for clarifying it @(name removed by moderator) ❤️
 
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What’s in a name? That which we call a rose
By Any Other Name would smell as sweet.
 
I remember that quest!

Witcher 3 was great! AC Valhalla is serviceable but no Witcher.
 
I’m glad the Pope has gotten away from dressing like that. . .
Me too! In my opinion, many Non-Catholics will criticize us and younger Catholics may doubt the Tradition. But I wanted and love to see the Pope wearing those vestments.

This gives me a glimpse:

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(Now I can see, the holy father looks handsome (as he always look like) with a Traditional Papal Vestment and Regalia)
 
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Fallout writing isn’t very good. Actually I didn’t think Skyrim had great writing but otherwise was a great game.

Mass Effect series, red dead redemption, and last of us (especially the first one) have some of the best writing out there- which is mediocre for other media but really good for games.

It’s weird that they spend millions making these games then don’t put much of a story together.
 
People like Kojima game writing but I have never cared for it. Too melodramatic and lacking in subtlety. I think that’s a japanese thing though.
 
Please cite how the left is cheering on this type of dressing. Dennis Rodman is a Trump supporter, by the way.
I am sorry I have not had time to read this thread so posting only from one take on this. .Will read . Candace Owens took this on and I think that is relevant.

We all know in the past that musicians like Bowie and others donned dresses or outfits considered feminine. That is in the past and in a different generation.

Candace Owens lives in her own generation and she knows and sees that all of her generation see a very difference between sexual biology and gender norms. They split that. Their general knowledge is that you are born male and female and they do not dispute that(there are exceptions -intersex-).

What they dispute is not the biology but that everyone is gender-neutral. The norms for gender can fluctuate all over and so there can be many different - a whole range of norms. Gender is fluid. Girls can wear pant, boys can wear dresses so on and so forth…

That does not really become a problem until it gets into sexuality and then people can choose to be bisexual or in relationships with just about anyone and anything. Again gender is fluid…

The dress on a male musician or on a male 100 years ago is not what Candace Owens sees when she sees a male in a dress on Vogue Cover. This represents a whole generation thought pattern.

Are a few Vogue Covers going to make a difference, probably not. Candace is looking at the bigger picture and where her generation is going…
 
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Nothing particularly new in that idea either, Bowie was playing with that idea also as were others in the pop and rock world. Also although Bowie’s is dead he and others like Freddie Mercury do influence people still alive.
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But the whole of that generation unlike Candace’s generation had not bought into the idea of gender fluid.
 
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A great many 20 year old today believe in gender fluid. It is something they would have heard about in lower grades and possibly taken a class in college on - gender roles and influence. Totally different from 50-100 years ago.

Candace Owens is a product of her own generation and speaking to them.
 
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But it would not be an every day world view that all her peers talked about. Again are a few Vogue Covers going to matter, no.

Candace is speaking to a larger issue that she sees.
 
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We all know in the past that musicians like Bowie and others donned dresses or outfits considered feminine. That is in the past and in a different generation.
I’m sorry, but that makes zero sense to me.

Church teaching didn’t change between 1974 and 2020.
Candace is speaking to a larger issue that she sees.
I have only the vaguest idea who this woman is, and she’s not a moral authority in my book, so her opinion is worth as much as anyone else’s.

Edited to add, I just looked her up and she doesn’t even appear to be Catholic. If I’m correct and she isn’t, why would I even pay attention to what she thinks? Political activists, whether right or left, mean nothing to me.
 
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We all know in the past that musicians like Bowie and others donned dresses or outfits considered feminine. That is in the past and in a different generation.
I’m sorry, but that makes zero sense to me.

Church teaching didn’t change between 1974 and 2020.
Church teaching did not change on sexual issues. I am not sure they ever took an issue of what clothing people could choose to wear.
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Candace is speaking to a larger issue that she sees.
I have only the vaguest idea who this woman is, and she’s not a moral authority in my book, so her opinion is worth as much as anyone else’s.

Edited to add, I just looked her up and she doesn’t even appear to be Catholic. If I’m correct and she isn’t, why would I even pay attention to what she thinks? Political activists, whether right or left, mean nothing to me.
No, she is not Catholic that I have read but she speaks to her generation. Again for those in the '60s and 70’s generation, they were in a generation where just about every musician had flamboyant clothing and loud music… It was all out there.

Candace is speaking to her generation and well knows of the past generation…

IHer generation believes sexuality is fluid. That is what she is addressing.
 
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