Don’t be silly!LeafByNiggle:
What is a “mask”?
We have always had poverty. Don’t blame covid-19 restrictions for it.
Whatever level of famine we have it is because of the virus, not any overreaction to it.
I do not believe the CDC is hysterical. I think the ideological libertarians that see the boogyman in every action of government - that is hysterical. The CDC is reasonable.
I’m absolutely serious.
Ask anyone in grade school. They can tell you what a mask is.LeafByNiggle:
I’m absolutely serious.
There is no definition of a “mask” and you and I both know it, as it has been discussed here.
I will blame these restrictions on it. At least part of it.
They didn’t lock down in 1918. With a flu that killed at a far greater rate than Covid-19. They banned large gatherings, they quarantined schools, etc. But they never stopped people from attempting to make a living and feed their families in the midst of it. Result: the economy only went down about 4% to 6%. It would go down harder than that in the 1921 Depression and much harder than that in the 1930’s Great Depression.
I gotta laugh now. You don’t like being called out.
I get it. Caring about the hungry means supporting the Orange Man, that’s badthink, can’t go there, not allowed, they don’t exist.
A few weeks ago you were trying to tell me medical personnel wear N-95’s too. And probably some do but most don’t (I have since talked to a surgeon friend of mine that said they do not).
We see this from the media. Everything to the media is politics.
To the readers here: If you lost a loved one to covid-19 due to the unnecessary delay in our federal response to the pandemic, remember that. Fortunes can be rebuilt. Lives cannot.
No, I just calculate that ration differently than you do. Actually, it is the CDC that calculates that ratio differently than you do. And the Republican governors of states that imposed restrictions on gatherings and mask mandate - they also calculate that ratio differently than you do.
This (falsely) assumes two things.
That’s fine. But I must have missed those posts from you.Cathoholic:
No, I just calculate that ration differently than you do.
I think the medical field has learned a thing or two in 100 years.
Nor are they doing that now for the vast majority of people.
No, the coronavirus did this to us.
The only practical way to do that is to stop community spread. It is a fiction that we can allow the virus to run rampant through the healthier population and not have it infect the more vulnerable.
Nope. Never happened. Revisionist history.
The media did not make the decisions that authorized lockdowns.
Never happened.
That was wise decision. But they did close down bars and gyms, because they deemed education more important than bars and gyms.
…how much is “that much”? They do enough good to justify wearing them. That’s what the CDC recommends.
No, it doesn’t work that way. The irresponsible actions one person takes affects everyone else in his community. It is wrong to think of each person protecting only himself. That just doesn’t work.
No one likes being called uncaring. But I’ve been on this forum long enough that I don’t take it personally anymore.
Maybe you should spend a day with a family that has lost loved one (or two) to covid-19.
Try to look them in the eye and tell them their loved one should have done more to protect himself, and that it is just his own fault he died from it.
If you really think that Leaf, you should publicly call on Andrew Cuomo to re-institute his orders to put COVID-19 INFECTED patients back INTO nursing homes and other LTCFs.
We don’t have to assume it. It is an established fact that fewer lives are lost where restrictions are followed more strictly.LeafByNiggle:
This (falsely) assumes two things.
That lives would not be lost in leftist counties that pushed harder lockdowns than the US
This has two false built-in presuppositions too.
You can go an take a rest. It is OK by me.LeafByNiggle:
This has two false built-in presuppositions too.
But I am weary of showing you the fallacies.
I agree with Tucker on one point - we could have kept elementary schools open - if we had instituted enough restrictions on other types of gatherings. Studies show that very young children do not transmit the virus nearly as often as adults or older children. But that takes prioritizing education - something this nation has been reluctant to do lately.
Yes, that’s a flashback - a long long long way back - when the virus existed only in a very few places.
Actually studies SHOWED that . . . way back when.