Everything. It means that we just don’t get covered by God. We have to take Him in. The Israelites had to follow.God’s instructions to the letter on what to do with the Lamb. We have to follow His instructions in what to do with His Son.Although I’m not sure what that has to do with Spirit Filled Believers in the New Covenant???
Jesus is already in me, by the power of the Holy Spirit. I have already taken Him in and He remains in me until I reach my eternal home.t means that we just don’t get covered by God. We have to take Him in. The Israelites had to follow.God’s instructions to the letter on what to do with the Lamb. We have to follow His instructions in what to do with His Son.
Two things wrong with that.Jesus is already in me, by the power of the Holy Spirit. I have already taken Him in and He remains in me until I reach my eternal home.
Jn 6:56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him .That is why we are encouraged to constantly examine ourselves to see if we are in the faith.
So you don’t think the Holy Spirit indwells in believers?
- You have to take Him in daily. If you don’t abide in Him, you will be cut off.
- He will be in you even when you reach your.home. Assuming you persevere to the end.
You will disagree with this article but this is my belief on John 6Jn 6:56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him .
Can a person who sins and does not repent have the Holy Spirit?So you don’t think the Holy Spirit indwells in believers?
We believe Jesus words are spirit and life, which is why we believe Him when He says this is My Body.believe it most accurately reflects the meaning of the passage and what Christ was trying to teach His followers.
If there is no struggle against our carnal nature then it shows they have never known God.Can a person who sins and does not repent have the Holy Spirit?
How do you square that with ‘phago’ v50-53 [eating] and ‘trogo’ v54 [chew, gnaw]?this is my belief on John 6
I believe it most accurately reflects the meaning of the passage and what Christ was trying to teach His followers.
The same we square pinō as how we drink the living waterHow do you square that with ‘phago’ v50-53 [eating] and ‘trogo’ v54 [chew, gnaw]?
Your translation is skewed to have OSAS.1 John 3:6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.
Hebrews says otherwise.So if someone “keeps on sinning” or “makes a practice of sinning” then they were never filled with the Holy Spirit in the first place.
Except Jesus made it clear that it wasn’t literal.The same we square pinō as how we drink the living water
Nope. He tells us later what eating Him means.Jesus tells us what “that those who eat My flesh and Drink my blood have eternal life” means earlier in John
The same we square pinō as how we drink the living water
Where in those examples do you see an ‘intensified’ response? [phago to trogo]The same we square " ta`am " in Psalm 34:8 for tasting the Lord
- been enlightened
- tasted God’s goodness
- partaken of the Spirit.
Except that the same author writes that Jesus tasted death for everyone (Hebrews 2:9). And when someone tastes death, they die, no? So one who tastes the heavenly gift has experienced it.Second, they had “tasted” of the heavenly gift. To “taste” is to have a personal experience of, in contrast from mere report.
To partake of the Holy Spirit is to partake of the Holy Spirit. As how Peter says that we partake of Christ’s divinity.Hebrews 6:4–6 speaks of people who have been “associated with” the Holy Spirit, and thereby had their lives influenced by him, but it need not imply that they had a redeeming work of the Holy Spirit in their lives, or that they were regenerated
Depends on the context. Taste also can mean I took a tiny bite to see if I liked it. Or if I wanted more. Or I tried it out to see if it is for me.Except that the same author writes that Jesus tasted death for everyone (Hebrews 2:9). And when someone tastes death, they die, no? So one who tastes the heavenly gift has experienced it.
In your case it depends on your belief in OSAS.Depends on the context.
And yet, if we hear Patristic takes on it, they definitely take it to mean converted and indwelled.Grudem is pointing out the the greek usage for the term for “Partake” doesn’t necessarily mean “converted” or indwelled.
Key words: battling. Also crazy when we consider that this letter to the Hebrews has Pauline theology all over it.Unless you think that Paul lost the Holy Spirit when he was battling sin?
Exactly, I believe any truly born again believer will battle with sin. They may even temporarily lose that battle, especially if they have addiction or mental health issues. But I believe as long as they are battling it shows that they have the Holy Spirit in them.Key words: battling.
You shouldn’t exclude the possibility that the believer can say, “I quit.” Which is what Paul, or his associate spoke of in Hebrews 6.Exactly, I believe any truly born again believer will battle with sin.