Mandatory mask poll

[RuthAnne]

we need to clarify which we’re talking about or we’re not going to get anywhere.

I don’t think that would make any difference. It appears to me that you would like to control my actions when I have no desire to control yours. I dont think that’s going to easily change.

 

[pnewton]

So I could refuse compliance with no recourse by the state.

That is not true. Only arrest is off the table. A judge could still issue a judgment, the money and punitive fees might be garnished. In the future, it might be that state assistance or anything the state provides (license and registration?) might be denied. I do not know that anyone will even be cited. As a rule, it seems everyone is compliant.

 

[OurGodIsWithUs]

It’s a Sunday afternoon and you’re shopping without a mask during the pandemic. As you reach for the celery, a woman next to you sneezes into the air. You jerk back, but it’s too late. A sneeze travels at 100 mph. You’re infected. But you don’t know it. You wouldn’t.

For two weeks, you show no symptoms. In those two weeks, you met cousin Fred at the Home Depot. Fred’s excited that his in-laws are coming over for two weeks. They have diabetes, and are at high-risk. He wants to take care of them, and stay home.

He picks them up from the airport, and embraces them. They’re infected as well, but they don’t know it.

Later, you feel miserable. COVID 19’s symptoms show up and you’re alarmed. You immediately tell your friends and family so they can get tested too. A month later, you get a call. The in-laws have tested positive for COVID-19. In three days, both are dead, due to severe pulmonary complications from Coronavirus.

All because you wanted your “freedoms” and couldn’t keep a mask on. Surgeons wear masks, doctors wear masks. No, you’re not going to suffocate. People in other countries are able to get their act together, they don’t complain. What are they, aliens? No! They’re just like you and me.

You killed those in-laws. It’s your fault.

I’m more than happy to wear a mask. I honestly don’t know why people object to it. I try to protect myself as much as possible as a young guy, who’s been blessed with somewhat good health. People say the mortality rate is low, and that they’ll be fine. It ain’t about you. You’re becoming a virus vector. Show your strength by protecting the weak and vulnerable!

To the COVID deniers. Explain the body bags in refrigerated trucks first, then you can believe that COVID is fake and proceed to do your part to send society to hell.

 

[Wesrock]

Wearing a mask is the patriotic thing to do for your country right now.

 

[OurGodIsWithUs]

Yes! What is patriotism about? Wanting good for your countrymen (countrypersons for the concerned liberals but that sounds awkward lol) and country as a whole. The recommended way to do that is to practice social distancing, and to wear a mask! So do it! It ain’t hard!

 

[Lea101]

My father made an offhand remark about how the US is probably the only country that made COVID a political issue. Before anyone attacks me, I’m sure there are others, but come on it’s at least a little true

The quicker we all do our part, the sooner our lives can go back to normal!

 

[OurGodIsWithUs]

Indeed Lea, indeed. The sooner, the better. What we’re seeing are the perils of instant gratification. Society wants to reopen too soon for the moolah. It’s like taking 1 step forward but three steps back. smh.

 

[LisaB]

I don’t mind wearing a mask inside a business- it’s mandated here, but even if it weren’t, these are their rules, and if I don’t like it, I’m free to get my takeout somewhere else.

I’m glad the masks outside mandate is not enforced here. That would be overkill. They really shouldn’t have even put a law on the books that they weren’t going to enforce- not sure what the intended purpose of that was.

For all those arguing with @RuthAnne, she said multiple times, masks aren’t mandated where she is. Let’s not make this into a moral issue- if there is no mandate, she has no obligation to wear them.

 

[OurGodIsWithUs]

Thanks for your perspective. It really concerns me when people care more about themselves than others. They don’t understand the science behind the spread of the virus and scream “Jesus is bigger than the virus. Alleluia.”
Jesus said do not put the Lord your God to the test. Jesus gave us minds to use for good. We should wear masks to protect the weak.

If you don’t want to wear a mask, don’t leave your house. The virus can float on droplets in the air. I suggest you do some reading on the science behind particulate spread of the coronavirus. Anyone with a lick of common-sense would wear a mask. But don’t listen to me, listen to the scientists out there!

 

[Beryllos]

Ah, another thread on wearing masks. Was there something we forgot to cover in the previous threads?

Perhaps a prayer. Heavenly Father, send your Holy Spirit to assist and guide us through this pandemic, that your children all over the world may come together in charity and solidarity for your glory, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.

 

[Salibi]

This is political. I refuse to participate.

Please don’t take this the wrong way, but what’s political about it?

Not attacking you, just trying to understand your viewpoint.

 

[Beryllos]

A man asks his doctor when the covid pandemic will be over. His doctor replies, “How would I know? I’m a doctor, not a politician.”

Great joke though. I took the liberty of reposting it in the jokes thread.

 

[RolandThompsonGunner]

If I have to negotiate with you, and I come to your house and place a loaded weapon on the table between us and then lay out my demands, you don’t think that will color the negotiating?

You don’t think you would feel threatened in the slightest?

This philosophy is an attack on the concept of “law” itself. If you want to “negotiate”, you do that by contacting your representative to influence the legislative process. You don’t get to “negotiate” with a cop enforcing a legitimately passed law.

Do you really think it makes sense for people to decide at the moment of enforcement whether a law applies to them or not? You don’t see the potential issue there?

 

[LisaB]

It’s a Sunday afternoon and you’re shopping without a mask during the pandemic. As you reach for the celery, a woman next to you sneezes into the air. You jerk back, but it’s too late. A sneeze travels at 100 mph. You’re infected. But you don’t know it. You wouldn’t.

For two weeks, you show no symptoms. In those two weeks, you met cousin Fred at the Home Depot. Fred’s excited that his in-laws are coming over for two weeks. They have diabetes, and are at high-risk. He wants to take care of them, and stay home.

He picks them up from the airport, and embraces them. They’re infected as well, but they don’t know it.

Later, you feel miserable. COVID 19’s symptoms show up and you’re alarmed. You immediately tell your friends and family so they can get tested too. A month later, you get a call. The in-laws have tested positive for COVID-19. In three days, both are dead, due to severe pulmonary complications from Coronavirus.
…

You killed those in-laws. It’s your fault.

Nice try, but:

• You wearing a mask in that grocery store is not likely to protect you. If masks work at all, the woman would have had to wear it.
• Don’t come so close to others in grocery stores, mask or no mask. No one should be “next to you” in the first place, except maybe a quick pass in the aisle.
• Your at risk in-laws should have taken responsibility for their own health and should have neither come to see your cousin nor (even worse!) gotten on an airplane.
• The death rate is not so high that both of them would die from this- possible but not likely.
• You should try to avoid shopping on Sundays.

 

[RolandThompsonGunner]

I don’t think that would make any difference. It appears to me that you would like to control my actions when I have no desire to control yours. I dont think that’s going to easily change.

I don’t agree that you are somehow exempt from the law just by virtue of proclaiming yourself an anarchist, if that’s what you mean.

 

[LisaB]

What law is @RuthAnne claiming to be exempt from?

 

[RolandThompsonGunner]

What law is @RuthAnne claiming to be exempt from?

All civil and criminal laws, as far as I can tell. Everything is an illegitimate attempt to control her behavior. If I’m wrong, it’s because she’s giving pithy one like responses instead of actually laying out what she thinks.

 

[LisaB]

Her area doesn’t mandate masks. So she is free not to wear them if she so chooses, it wouldn’t be a matter of being exempt from any law in this case at least.

 

[EXdrinker]

Thanks for your perspective. It really concerns me when people care more about themselves than others. They don’t understand the science behind the spread of the virus

Maybe they understand the math behind the virus and conclude that the risk is so low that it makes no sense to wear a mask, especially if not currently ill or around people often enough to become ill (more math).

If you don’t want to wear a mask, don’t leave your house. The virus can float on droplets in the air. I suggest you do some reading on the science behind particulate spread of the coronavirus. Anyone with a lick of common-sense would wear a mask. But don’t listen to me, listen to the scientists out there!

Why can’t those who are scared or have trouble with math stay in their house?

 

[OurGodIsWithUs]

Haha! The point was to get people to take care of themselves and others and overall, be a good person. Unfortunately, Lisa, many people forget the six feet apart rule. I try my best to keep my distance, but others don’t seem to care - someone even touched me!!! I hope you and your family are safe!