Mandatory mask poll

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RuthAnne said:
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OurGodIsWithUs:
How about being a little proactive, and taking initiative?
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That is what I’m doing.
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Doing what? Going against what Dr. Fauci says? You think you know more than Dr. Fauci? My my.
 
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Can’t right now. On my way to a hot tub party where masks are prohibited 🤣
 
Praying also for our country and the world (from my post in a related thread).
Beryllos said:
Heavenly Father, send your Holy Spirit to assist and guide us through this pandemic, that your children all over the world may come together in charity and solidarity for your glory, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.
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Thank you. I think we will make it as far as hospital space here. We seem to have plateaued, at a level eight times what it did in April, but if we make it a week or two more where recovery matches new cases, we will be alright until the numbers go down.

Nearby, Houston will probably okay, only thanks to the largest number of hospital beds in the world. If only the Abbott would have instituted mandatory masking and closing events earlier this would have been milder, in my opinion. You simply cannot re-open like everything was before it closed. I just found this out from the diocese:
Regrettably, we learned late Saturday evening that four of the priest residents have tested positive for COVID-19, including Archbishop Emeritus Joseph A. Fiorenza and retired Auxiliary Bishop Vincent M. Rizzotto.
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This was from a retirement center.
 
Edit: this was meaner than necessary, sorry.
 
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During the few short minutes when we had a little downtime (very little!) at work in the microbiology lab today, we had a nice discussion.

The supervisor of microbiology, who is 64 and has undergone 2 open heart surgeries in the last four years (and is petite and underweight, not obese) stated that SHE wears a mask because she is at risk. But she doesn’t mind if others don’t wear one because there are only two ways that the COVID-19 pandemic will stop: (1) when there is a vaccine and/or (2) there is herd immunity.

For herd immunity to happen, people have to catch the virus, suffer through the symptoms, and hopefully recover. Some won’t recover. But that’s true of ANY viral infection–a LOT of people die from influenza (a virus).

But most WILL recover, and they will hopefully, if the virus behaves like other viruses, be immune from whatever strain of COVID-19 that they contracted, and the more people who are immune means the more people who won’t catch the virus, and that keeps people like our microbiology supervisor–and Cousin Fred–fairly safe.
 
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RuthAnne said:
I disagree. This is political. I refuse to participate.
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What are you talking about? Wearing a mask is just a sensible precaution to protect yourself, but, more particularly, to protect others (masks are more effective at protecting others than they are at protecting yourself). By refusing to participate, you are only contributing to the failure to stop the spread.
 
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While you really would need an N95 mask to reduce the chances of you catching it, a cloth or paper mask is still an effective tool in stopping the spread of COVID-19 to others, along with distancing. And you can spread it even if you aren’t sick. “I don’t need a mask I’m not sick” misses the point. You don’t have to be sick, and if everyone participated in wearing a mask when not quarantined (states do need to reopen, even if in stages) we could make a lot of progress towards suppressing the number of new cases again. It’s a civic and patriotic action you can take for your country (not your government, the country itself).

Contrary to the popular refrain in America, Scripture does teach us we have some responsibility to be our brother’s keeper. We are part of communities and we have community obligations. We’re not islands who should just shift blame to others.

Obviously I am not advocating the extreme of collectivism, but the Church does teach against extreme individualism.
 
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Peeps said:
During the few short minutes when we had a little downtime (very little!) at work in the microbiology lab today, we had a nice discussion.

The supervisor of microbiology, who is 64 and has undergone 2 open heart surgeries in the last four years (and is petite and underweight, not obese) stated that SHE wears a mask because she is at risk. But she doesn’t mind if others don’t wear one because there are only two ways that the COVID-19 pandemic will stop: (1) when there is a vaccine and/or (2) there is herd immunity.

For herd immunity to happen, people have to catch the virus, suffer through the symptoms, and hopefully recover. Some won’t recover. But that’s true of ANY viral infection–a LOT of people die from influenza (a virus).

But most WILL recover, and they will hopefully, if the virus behaves like other viruses, be immune from whatever strain of COVID-19 that they contracted, and the more people who are immune means the more people who won’t catch the virus, and that keeps people like our microbiology supervisor–and Cousin Fred–fairly safe.
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We don’t have unlimited hospital capacity for serious cases. Herd immunity is what we need, but if hospitals are overflowing capacity when they don’t have to be that’s an injustice.
 
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vz71 said:
Most cases never realize they had it.
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I don’t agree with “most”, most would have at least some symptoms. But even asymptomatic cases often have organ damage, which would surface as health defects later.
 
Jen95 said:
Do you think people are independently wealthy? Do you work? Some people have to work with the general public or a large number of customers. I personally think it’s a labor issue if workers are forced to be exposed to the public and there are people who refuse to mask.
But, hey, ex drinker, I guess you know better than the Cleveland Clinic, etc…
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I do not think all people are independently wealthy. I work and have been working this entire time. You and obviously others think it is a labor issue. I think most labor issues are merely people wanting others to go out of their way to make them more comfortable rather than them finding a job that is more fitting for them. This might be one of those issues. If one doesn’t like working with the public one should find another job rather than expect everyone to come to them masked so they feel better. As I said, many believe the path forward is in healthy people interacting and developing immunity helping stop the spread while the vulnerable stay home (if able). Also, so many people touch their face so much more often with the masks on. Their hands are full of far more germs than they would be without the masks. Then their masks are full of germs. They also feel protected and neglect bothering to take other precautions. . . .
 
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JulianN said:
It is so depressing to see this attitude among people who profess to follow Christ.
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I imagine this is how some Pro Life Catholics feel as they see liberals supporting liberal politicians who publicly go against the life teachings of Jesus such as abortion and marriage and yet profess to being Catholic.
 
Same in South Texas. I think we can conclude that hot weather doesn’t kill this virus.
 
Bernoulli said:
But even asymptomatic cases often have organ damage, which would surface as health defects later.
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Perhaps you could link the statistics to back this.

Seems to me organ damage is a symptom.
And would run contrary to asymptomatic.
 
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