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RolandThompsonGunner
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That’s pretty callous. Also, your mask doesn’t protect you anyway. If you don’t care about potentially getting others sick, you may as well not wear one.
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ForeverLearn
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That is a fair statement, although, I must impart, a rather…American one. Many would say by definition, a selfish one.Here’s how I see it.
I’ll wear a mask to protect myself from others who may have CV-19; not because the government or some other entity wants/requires me to.
It is not my responsibility to protect others from me. If I choose not to wear a mask and someone else gets upset because they are afraid of catching something from me, too bad. They need to make the effort to protect themselves; not demand that others keep them safe.
My two-cents.
The reality is that with pandemics, the individualism world view is at a disadvantage. Pandemics truly present a scenario where people are dependent on others. The longer this self-centered attitude is in place, the longer the virus sticks around. I don’t specifically blame people for thinking this way, it is the set of living arrangements we were born into. However, compared to the 99.99% of humans who came before us, we are still afforded a lifestyle of extreme priviledge.
I think many have a flawed philosophy in thinking that we will have a vaccine soon so everything we do is temporary. In reality, we should be preparing as if we will NEVER have a vaccine and then be thrilled if we get one.
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ForeverLearn
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Not as much, but there is growing evidence that they do indeed provide a level of protection.Also, your mask doesn’t protect you anyway.
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27lw
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Lost indeed.Here’s how I see it.
I’ll wear a mask to protect myself from others who may have CV-19; not because the government or some other entity wants/requires me to.
It is not my responsibility to protect others from me. If I choose not to wear a mask and someone else gets upset because they are afraid of catching something from me, too bad. They need to make the effort to protect themselves; not demand that others keep them safe.
My two-cents.
What about people, who for their jobs, are required to be around the general public? Bus drivers, grocery clerks, public servants?
Are those people all supposed to quit en masse if they are concerned about the general public not wearing masks and coughing, breathing on them, etc?
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John_Martin
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You go read the 10 commandments again:I’ll wear a mask to protect myself from others…
It is not my responsibility to protect others from me…
They are all about holding YOU in check so someone else is not hurt.
None of them are about you protecting yourself from others.
And St. Paul - “If my eating causes someone to fall, I will not eat…”If I choose not to wear a mask and someone else gets upset because they are afraid of catching something from me, too bad.
Time to Do Penance…
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RolandThompsonGunner
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I still can’t over what a fundamentally unChristian attitude this is. It’s like you’ve perfectly inverted the Gospel in a single sentence.It is not my responsibility to protect others from me.
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RuthAnne
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Are you judging someone because they sin differently than you do?Time to Do Penance…
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John_Martin
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Judging means applying a sentence.Are you judging someone because they sin differently than you do?
Jesus called his followers to proclaim, “Do Penance, the Kingdom established by God is here in front of you.” It is in no way “judgement” to call a person to turn from sin, but it is judgement to render the punishment, which I did not do.
I am calling you to do penance before the One Judge Arrives to Judge.
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RuthAnne
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You have judged them as having committed a sin, otherwise no need for penance.
Your sins are cleaner?
Your sins are cleaner?
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RolandThompsonGunner
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The logic doesn’t follow here. “You’re doing something wrong” does not imply “and I never do anything wrong.”Your sins are cleaner?
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John_Martin
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Jesus did not cast a stone at the woman in John 8, after shaming the others not to stone her, BUT he did call her to “Go and Sin No More” (Do Penance), He did not Judge her (penalty, stone her to death) but he did call her to renew her friendship with God by doing penance, which I am calling you to do, renew friendship with God, which is Re-Conciliation.You have judged them as having committed a sin, otherwise no need for penance.
Your sins are cleaner?
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Lost_Sheep
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Of course not! Being required to wear a mask while on the job is different than wearing/not wearing a mask in public when one is on one’s own time. If your job or employer requires you to wear a mask, that’s no different than wearing a bright orange vest or a hard hat because your job requires it.What about people, who for their jobs, are required to be around the general public? Bus drivers, grocery clerks, public servants?
Are those people all supposed to quit en masse if they are concerned about the general public not wearing masks and coughing, breathing on them, etc?
I’m referring to public settings like a park or a shopping mall. Personal Responsibility is or should still be a thing. I’ll worry about my own health but no one can be expected to worry about the health of everyone else.
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Lost_Sheep
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Show me the commandment that says “Thou shalt wear a mask in public.”You go read the 10 commandments again
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RolandThompsonGunner
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Why not? Personality responsibility includes taking reasonable steps to protect others from harm.Personal Responsibility is or should still be a thing. I’ll worry about my own health but no one can be expected to worry about the health of everyone else.
If I start firing a rifle around my neighborhood willy-nilly, can I go “well, it’s not my responsibility to make sure my neighbors have bullet proof windows.”?
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RolandThompsonGunner
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Don’t be willfully obtuse. Do you think something has to be specifically mentioned in order to violate the spirit of the 10 commandants?Show me the commandment that says “Thou shalt wear a mask in public.”
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Lost_Sheep
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Apples and Oranges. That statement isn’t even worth a response.If I start firing a rifle around my neighborhood willy-nilly, can I go “well, it’s not my responsibility to make sure my neighbors have bullet proof windows.”?
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RolandThompsonGunner
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If you think “I’ll just be indifferent to the welfare of other people” is in any way, shape or form reconcilable with Christianity, then I don’t know what to tell you (other than your understanding of Christianity is deeply, deeply flawed.)
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John_Martin
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“Thou shalt not kill, (by spreading your breath to your neighbor when you well know that your exhalations may contain the coronavirus in the midst of this deadly pandemic).”Show me the commandment that says “Thou shalt wear a mask in public.”
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RolandThompsonGunner
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I’d also consider “you shall love your neighbor as yourself” straight from the mouth of Christ Himself. This isn’t a close question. This is a no-brainer. This attitude is from Hell and I mean that literally.
It’s one thing if you don’t want to wear a mask because you don’t believe they work. Fine. It’s another to say “I don’t want to wear one because what happens to other people isn’t my problem.” No. You are your brothers keeper. This is Christianity 101.
It’s one thing if you don’t want to wear a mask because you don’t believe they work. Fine. It’s another to say “I don’t want to wear one because what happens to other people isn’t my problem.” No. You are your brothers keeper. This is Christianity 101.
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puer.dei
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Ever heard of the Greatest Commandment?Show me the commandment that says “Thou shalt wear a mask in public.”
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